Who's at fault for this?

sweep said:
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
While we're on this, I would just like to say that after a full stop convention insists on TWO spaces. There, and don't give me any Grammar Police crap - it's Punctuation Police if anything.
You can't post two spaces on this forum, try it. Tight arse Turner saving bandwidth I guess ;)
Standard HTML rule to only output one space. If you quote this reply you will see the spaces are still stored in the message, but not printed when the message is converted to HTML.

And that is why I don't get laid as often as I'd like :)
 
Bluemoon115 said:
sweep said:
You can't post two spaces on this forum, try it. Tight arse Turner saving bandwidth I guess ;)
Standard HTML rule to only output one space. If you quote this reply you will see the spaces are still stored in the message, but not printed when the message is converted to HTML.

And that is why I don't get laid as often as I'd like :)
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Bluemoon115 said:
sweep said:
You can't post two spaces on this forum, try it. Tight arse Turner saving bandwidth I guess ;)
Standard HTML rule to only output one space. If you quote this reply you will see the spaces are still stored in the message, but not printed when the message is converted to HTML.

And that is why I don't get laid as often as I'd like :)
Doesn't apply to other forums I post on and I'm fairly sure it didn't always on this one.

Not really arsed TBH but it just reads a bit odd.
 
its a peice of piss to cure and something that has been mentioned in previous replies!!!

at under 12's they are playing on full size pitches in all sorts of mud and shite. the better teams are the ones that havesome big lad at the back who can lump it into the oppositions area, by passing the midfielders and any one who can pass a ball. the better players are stood freezing there bollocks off not getting a kick. all you hear at junior football is "launch it george".

THE CURE
1. Have kids up to under 14's play on 3/4 size pitches with 3/4 size nets. encourages better footballers who have to work the ball iinto the net rather than some big galute who shoots from 25yards, and the lad in net who is 3'2 has a chance of saving it!!
2. start the season in Feb and finish in Oct. reduces postponments, pitches are in better nick... once again encourages the footballers

easy eh?
 
you cant blame the weather or the internet computers etc for something that has been going on for fifty years.east european teams are more skill-oriented and they have worse weather than us.The culture of scouting has been dreadful for years ,explayers friends of managers etc,and by the time the club has invested time and money on a youngster they stick with them hoping for the best.Every player has strengths and weaknesses and coaching should improve them,but i hardly ever see evidence of it.Surely there should no such thing as a prem player who cant pass with either foot,find a team-mate every time,put in a cross that troubles the defense,and plenty of other basic elements of the game.but you see it every week.Hopefully RM will be allowed the chance to introduce a culture that puts skill at the top of the scouting agenda ,as we try and close the gap with the top teams in europe.
 
Charles Hughes and the FA almost single handedly destroyed football in England with their route one mantra.

One of the reasons Brian Clough never got the England job was because he ignored all the FA technical committees and got his teams playing the ball to feet. Forest, Liverpool and Villa cleaned up in Europe in the 70's and 80's playing the opposite way to that dictated by the FA but never dawned on them to change their approach.

England has produced a lot of technically good players but the English game doesn't work for them. Hoddle, Gazza, Waddle, Le Tissier and even Joe Cole would all have been better off playing their entire careers in Europe where they wouldn't have been seen as a luxury.
 
bellbuzzer said:
the kids in this country,6 and upwards play on full-size pitches full-size goals,fullsize footballs,consequently the early developers(physically) stand out,and then get groomed in the good old english way. The FA have been in denial since Hungary humiliated us back in the fifties,they are responsible for the kind of player that english clubs churn out,by doing absolutely nothing but perpetuate the system that keeps them in power.Eventually the prem will be devoid of english players because we have wasted the talents of kids that never had a chance to shine in the early years. Technically and tactically our players fall further and further behind, how many scouts from spain and italy bother to look over here, how bad is the standard in the lower leagues,which are predominantly home produced? The best thing for the future of english football (not the prem) would be for the national team to fail miserably in SA ,thus high-lighting the cancer that is the FA,and removing the whole she-bang. They are a disgrace.And fifa are just corrupt.

This is probably the most likely reason for the lack of technical ability. The Brazilians, Dutch, Argies, etc all tend to excel at technical ability because they are coached from youth using the philosophy of small-sided games in training and playing. This coaching philosophy is slowing being adopted by the "english" national teams (which in my opinion includes England, US and Canada).

The US introduced this philosophy in 2005 (http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/doc_lib/small_sided_games_manual.pdf) and have had some pretty good success with it as the standard of the US team has increased during that time.

We in Canada have also adopted this approach to our coaching in the past 2 or 3 years, although in current practice our coaches are very much like England in that we chose the biggest strongest kids early on and depend on their power and pace to win games until they hit their late teens where their lack of ball skill means they get killed in international competitions. This is unfortunately highly influenced by Hockey coaches who see soccer as off-season fitness training. :( To combat this philosophy, the Canadian Soccer Association has introduced the Long-Term Player Development (http://www.canadasoccer.com/wellness/W2WC_Matrix_ENG.pdf) system into it's coach training so that players can focus on the areas of their skill development that are age appropriate.

With those changes, we now have competitive 7-a-side soccer leagues for kids U9-U11 with mini-sized fields and nets at House League, Division 1 and Premier levels. At U12 they shift to a full 11 v 11 game with full-sized nets on a full-sized field although those fields are just barely the minimum measurements. They also introduce a Regional level at this point where the top players at each group play and begin grooming for the provincial and national teams which begin at U14. As they progress through U12-U18 the fields and amount of time played gets increasinlgy longer. This is a start, although some would argue that small-sided games should continue well into a child's teen years with little emphasis placed on positional play.

With regards to the comment about the southern countries having an advantage because of their weather which makes them more of an outdoor culture, I'd chalk that up as an excuse. We in Canada have some of the harshest winters on the planet but we still hold competitive indoor seasons playing 7-a-side on mini fields on domed fields and Futsal leagues through the winter months. I'm actually a huge proponent of the game of Futsal in player development as it is a very fast paced game that requires excellent technique. The 6' + guys tend to struggle in this game as it is less physical and more technical than outdoor soccer. It's where the guys like Ronaldinho and Ronaldo have developed their superb technical ability. Here's a clip of Ronaldinho showing him playing Futsal as a kid and an adult to compare.

<a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1374289816694973820#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 694973820#</a>

Unfortunately, until we instill in our coaches and parents that quality football teams are more "successful" than match winning teams with large kids on them, we will continue to produce inferior teams on a national level and this is Canada's biggest problem. Even though we have leagues and divisions for the youngest kids it's the bigger althletic kids who make it into the provincial and national programs and not the more skilled players unfortunately because winning is the name of the game at the youth level.
 
there was a piece on the radio last week about this. spain has a football coach for every 15 kids wheras england has a coach for every 900 or something daft like that. may have been in the thousands actually. iv looked at football coaching on the fa website and it costs a bomb. the wages are shite as well. i can remember playing for my primary school team on a full size pitch/goals and it was 11 a side. on the continent, they dont get into full size nets/pitches til 13/14. smaller pitches, smaller goals, smaller teams. that way everyone gets regular touches of the ball in tighter spaces, which will improve ball skills and confidence. stops long shots into a near empty goal as well.
 
Brazil kids have fun playing (win and lose) and are allowed to use their imagination. England is must win so full of meat-heads (see Rooney for proof).

It's THAT simple :)
 
reading these posts,which are mercifully lacking the usual puerile insults ,i cant help thinking that the problems that football has,and mentioned by various posters,could equally apply to the country as a whole. Wrong people making the decisions,no accountability for making wrong decisions,no clear leadership,no plans to improve for the future.Just a blind determination to persevere with the failed tactics of the dreary past.
Oh another happy thought,it starts going dark again in a fortnight :)
 

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