Why 4-4-2 instead of 4-5-1/4-3-3 ?

Damocles

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With all these lovely discussions of tactics being thrown around, I wanted to hear the opinions on the current system.

I'm a big Hughes supporter, but the one thing I really don't understand from him, is why he insists on playing the 4-4-2, when we seem to play really badly underneath it?

I'm struggling to think of a game where we actually played well using the 4-4-2 formation, and don't really understand why the 4-5-1/4-3-3 was dropped.

Many will say that we have to fit Tevez in, but he played on the right side of the 3 at United (and would probably make a better midfielder than striker tbh) so he's use to it.

Ade is on his own up top, and seems to revel in the fact that the team is built around his strengths, it gives him the opportunity to get back a bit and create play from deeper, knowing that Tevez or Bellamy will still be up the pitch. He might start playing with a smile on his face again, as he has looked lost in the past few games.

The three across the midfield suits us, with De Jong protecting the backline, Barry linking the play, and Ireland getting forward when need be in the Lampard-like role.

This also means that the full backs will get forward on the actual wings, and not drift in to centre, but they will be far more guarded about it as they know that the winger in front of them won't move back to cover their position.

It works going forward, and defensively. Why was it dropped?
 
Damocles said:
With all these lovely discussions of tactics being thrown around, I wanted to hear the opinions on the current system.

I'm a big Hughes supporter, but the one thing I really don't understand from him, is why he insists on playing the 4-4-2, when we seem to play really badly underneath it?

I'm struggling to think of a game where we actually played well using the 4-4-2 formation, and don't really understand why the 4-5-1/4-3-3 was dropped.

Many will say that we have to fit Tevez in, but he played on the right side of the 3 at United (and would probably make a better midfielder than striker tbh) so he's use to it.

Ade is on his own up top, and seems to revel in the fact that the team is built around his strengths, it gives him the opportunity to get back a bit and create play from deeper, knowing that Tevez or Bellamy will still be up the pitch. He might start playing with a smile on his face again, as he has looked lost in the past few games.

The three across the midfield suits us, with De Jong protecting the backline, Barry linking the play, and Ireland getting forward when need be in the Lampard-like role.

This also means that the full backs will get forward on the actual wings, and not drift in to centre, but they will be far more guarded about it as they know that the winger in front of them won't move back to cover their position.

It works going forward, and defensively. Why was it dropped?

Only Hughes will know. It makes no sense whatsoever to me. We do not have the personnel to play 4 4 2 so why he persists with it is beyond me.
 
To me its the 1 thing that I can't defend MH for. I'm not ignoring the poor results but the formation could do with being mixed up, even during the game if its not working. I suppose you could say that 4-4-2 worked 2nd half and it was sloppy defending at the death but....
 
the team has a very serious problem in the defence and it was so obvious in the derby match. I think MH is trying to deal with that problem. I'm not quite sure how, because from the last 5 matches it seems to me that he's trying to solve that problem using some random approaches. Our match with Liverpool will definitely reveal everything.
 

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