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Why are the players training with weights in South Africa?
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ninjamonkey
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Nevermind weights. Did you not see the state of some of the push ups on show in those training videos? Shocking stuff.
George Hannah
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I'm not impressed either but this is to do with your post. I suppose you didn't like Mancini's hill either?Marvin said:Seems a bit 1970s and amateurish to me.
WHat training effect are we looking for?
Are we just trying to make the training sessions hard?
This is going to make recovery from the stamina training longer and will have absolutely zero long term effect. If anything its detrimental as it eats into recovery and can lead to overtraining
A weight program to target weak muscle groups in certain players may have its place, but there's no point players doing dumbbell presses or flyes. Any short term strength gains will be minimal and quickly lost (unless we plan on doing this throughout the season)
Not impressed
;-)
goulding685
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As I am not a fitness coach, have never managed Real Madrid or been to the semis of the CL I will leave the training to Pelligrini and his pals.
citymad said:I've always thought Marvin to be a positive poster. In any case it's just an observation and a valid talking point.
I've got to agree with this. I dont think I've ever disagreed with Marvin.
On this occasion, however, Im with the guys at the club. If they think it's required, that'll do me.
Roll on the season!
Gents i think you've missed the point here. South africa is high altitude which means less oxygen. Any training in that environment has exceptional benefit when you ply you trade at normal altitude. In south africa you are going to be smashing out between 3,500-9000ft which means a standard lung cap/fitness (Vo2) is just not going to cut the mustard. Look at why chris froome is a far supperior climber than most of the other cyclist. Its because he trains regularly above 3000ft. I have an altitude mask and currently train at 6000ft which has seen a 10fold increase in lung cap and fitness is 8 weeks which would take me 3-4months longer normally.
The weights is as someone put it designed to build explosiveness. Which is what you see with the Springbox and all blacks(Rugby union) the Welsh RFU have trained in an artificle cold box and altitude room in poland since 2010 and have become one of the more efficent teams in the world in the last 20 of a game usually when we get trode on.
But going back to the weights. If you do that regularly coupled with high altitude and good nutrition shakes and high protein good fat diet that will be awesome for the season to come. It will just depend if they are playing at it or they will replicate the training at home. And on the piont about fatigte(you may have noticed i cant spell) after several week aclimatising to the training fatigue will be a rare occurrance in the manner we envision it
The weights is as someone put it designed to build explosiveness. Which is what you see with the Springbox and all blacks(Rugby union) the Welsh RFU have trained in an artificle cold box and altitude room in poland since 2010 and have become one of the more efficent teams in the world in the last 20 of a game usually when we get trode on.
But going back to the weights. If you do that regularly coupled with high altitude and good nutrition shakes and high protein good fat diet that will be awesome for the season to come. It will just depend if they are playing at it or they will replicate the training at home. And on the piont about fatigte(you may have noticed i cant spell) after several week aclimatising to the training fatigue will be a rare occurrance in the manner we envision it
Manc in London
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Squats are an excellent exercise for building core strength. You use more muscle groups when doing squats than any other weights exercise.
Watching the pre season videos last year, weights were used regularly, with players doing brench presses and the likes.
Watching the pre season videos last year, weights were used regularly, with players doing brench presses and the likes.
NeilYoungIsBack
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Moobesh said:Gents i think you've missed the point here. South africa is high altitude which means less oxygen.
Pretty sure Durban is at sea-level
George Hannah
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Pretoria 1,350 m (4,500 ft)NeilYoungIsBack said:Moobesh said:Gents i think you've missed the point here. South africa is high altitude which means less oxygen.
Pretty sure Durban is at sea-level