Why do we keep getting HAMMERED? What is our training regime exactly.

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We never used to get battered,it's tactics and more tactics that have failed,attacking football at all costs,simples
I can't wait for some balance again

Agree on the balance. We dont control games like we used to. We don't seem to be tactically smart. Having no midfield like last night. Possibly GM is spot on with the training regime. Who knows. Pellers has been a dead man walking for two seasons, which I doubt helped, but at least we have done the decent thing and announced the funeral date.

Good teams rarely get hammered. Pellers has failed to put together and mould a good team. Which is criminal to be honest.

Sunday was good though :)
 
We start with a nice warm up session of look at my car in the CFA SPA carpark
Then we do some light Louis Vuitton washbag lifting.
Then we work on our facial muscles under the strict instruction of Sharon.
Next we have an intense game of guess my face mask with Chappy followed by a full out session of high fiving, funny handshakes and back slapping.
A bit of side splitting target practice at whoever's being interviewd by CityTV follows.
We warm down with a bit of a kick about and a lot of hilarity when piggy in the middle gets the ball.
The manager then whips us up into a frenzy with his team talk.
Some stay behind to practice hitting the crossbar and for special treats Les dons his cap for some shooting practice and funny walks.

In all honesty, I don't know, but would genuinely like to hear from those priviledged enough to have access what a typical session involves.

It's just dawned on me! It's gone tits up since Chappy 'retired'. Get him back in the kit room!
 
The team does not match the sum of it's parts.

I suspect not a lot of real fitness work takes place, nor positional work or paying attention to the other teams strengths and weaknesses.

This is the polar opposite to what Pep is about. I've read about Pep marking out grid lines on his training pitches and drills endlessly who needs to be where on the pitch.

I think some players are in for a rude awakening in the not too distant future.
 
The team does not match the sum of it's parts.

I suspect not a lot of real fitness work takes place, nor positional work or paying attention to the other teams strengths and weaknesses.

This is the polar opposite to what Pep is about. I've read about Pep marking out grid lines on his training pitches and drills endlessly who needs to be where on the pitch.

I think some players are in for a rude awakening in the not too distant future.
I hope and believe you are right.
 
I think it's a great question.

As a layman, I'd expect training to involve working on fitness, positioning and set-pieces - all disciplines that we seem to be struggling with at the moment.

We do however have a great YouTube channel, a popular Instagram page and an ever growing amount of Cityzens worldwide thanks to the work of our multimedia department. This will be great when Sharon the photographer and a Chappy earn us as many premiership points as Sergio & Vinny but until then I'd rather the players spent more time & effort on the training pitch than in front of a camera.
 
Third rate training from a thjrd rate manager.

He's taken a team of winners who never EVER looked beaten and turned them into the biggest limp wristed bunch of fannies in the league

All while spending £400m.

Much, much, much worse manager than Mancini, and i was no great fan of his
 
We don't practise movement from our own or opposition throwings, that's for sure.
 
The spine of this team going back to Bobs reign has always been about slow, possession based football. Teams used to sit off us frightened to death and thus we got away with it but increasingly, they have learnt to press and the players are just unable/unwilling to do the dirty work needed to compete.

I dont think we are unfit, its a mentality of wanting to do it and far too many just dont want to.

Fully agree to that. The players wanted the COC cup and we coped with the press effectively. But, they are not willing to do it week in-week out.
 
It's definitely a legitimate concern. Until this season, I was never worried about us getting comprehensively beat. Even up against Barcelona or Bayern, you knew it'd be a tight game. But this season we're getting beaten by much larger margins by much worse teams. Liverpool are a thoroughly average team. They should be scraping a 1-0 win against us if anything. In the season where liverpool "won" the title, they had a period of the game where they hammered us and went into a 2-0 lead, but we still managed to pull 2 goals back and make a game of it. I've approached every game with City until recently with the assumption that the only possible results are a win, draw or narrow loss, but this season, it's been awful. I dunno if it's that we're making more mistakes, or whether we're simply not reacting to conceding in the same way. Pellegrini seems to have very little tactical variation. His attitude to every game seems to be "if we play well, we'll win" with little consideration for the strengths of the opponents or the state of the squad. He talked about the players being tired (an excuse we've heard before), but in that case did he alter the game plan to take that into account? Or did he just set up the same way with the same "exhausted" players and expect them to put the same sort of shift in that they did in the Ukraine or at Wembley? I'm no tactician, but even I know that some styles of play demand more physically than others, and it would stand to reason that you should play one of the less demanding styles when you have a packed schedule.
 
It's definitely a legitimate concern. Until this season, I was never worried about us getting comprehensively beat. Even up against Barcelona or Bayern, you knew it'd be a tight game. But this season we're getting beaten by much larger margins by much worse teams. Liverpool are a thoroughly average team. They should be scraping a 1-0 win against us if anything. In the season where liverpool "won" the title, they had a period of the game where they hammered us and went into a 2-0 lead, but we still managed to pull 2 goals back and make a game of it. I've approached every game with City until recently with the assumption that the only possible results are a win, draw or narrow loss, but this season, it's been awful. I dunno if it's that we're making more mistakes, or whether we're simply not reacting to conceding in the same way. Pellegrini seems to have very little tactical variation. His attitude to every game seems to be "if we play well, we'll win" with little consideration for the strengths of the opponents or the state of the squad. He talked about the players being tired (an excuse we've heard before), but in that case did he alter the game plan to take that into account? Or did he just set up the same way with the same "exhausted" players and expect them to put the same sort of shift in that they did in the Ukraine or at Wembley? I'm no tactician, but even I know that some styles of play demand more physically than others, and it would stand to reason that you should play one of the less demanding styles when you have a packed schedule.
It takes me back to the Keegan days.
Wasn't it he who said that he didn't need to coach top class in players in tactics because ,as top class players, they should already know what to do on the pitch?
We have been getting away with the sheer quality of our players winning games when we have struggled- Sunderland away recently being a case in point, but he's gone to the well once too often now.
Last night we saw the same tactical mistakes being made for around the fourth time this season , hardly a masterclass from Klopp when we all knew , as did he because he'd already done it once ,exactly how to set up to beat a physically struggling side with no direction to it and sadly, given the return of VK , little leadership.
"Holistic" ought to mean taking into account every aspect of every game, something Pep will presumably address and it can't come soon enough.
 
The mentality from the team has gone. You look at those games and when they scored we ended up just accepting it like Arsenal do.

Its because player power was encouraged to help get rid of Mancini and we are still dealing with that aftermath.
 
The spine of this team going back to Bobs reign has always been about slow, possession based football. Teams used to sit off us frightened to death and thus we got away with it but increasingly, they have learnt to press and the players are just unable/unwilling to do the dirty work needed to compete.

I dont think we are unfit, its a mentality of wanting to do it and far too many just dont want to.


Mancini had us organised, winning the FA cup and finishing 3rd, while playing the Europa and with a weaker squad than we currently had. In the next season, we went on to thrash the spuds, dippers and rags. He has won and will win more trophies than Pellers, as he is the better manager.
 
It's a lack of belief.

We go behind and we don't trust ourselves to be able to up the tempo because we just haven't got the same ability or physicality as we have in previous seasons. That leads to us going billy big bollocks gung ho out of sheer desperation, meaning anyone half decent just picks us off and bums us.

That lack of belief has been evident in the Champions League for years, we're currently that poor in terms of team play it's now affecting us in domestic football.
 
Mancini had us organised, winning the FA cup and finishing 3rd, while playing the Europa and with a weaker squad than we currently had. In the next season, we went on to thrash the spuds, dippers and rags. He has won and will win more trophies than Pellers, as he is the better manager.

I completely disagree and im not going to argue the point with you mate as we will never agree.
 
It's a lack of belief.

We go behind and we don't trust ourselves to be able to up the tempo because we just haven't got the same ability or physicality as we have in previous seasons. That leads to us going billy big bollocks gung ho out of sheer desperation, meaning anyone half decent just picks us off and bums us.

That lack of belief has been evident in the Champions League for years, we're currently that poor in terms of team play it's now affecting us in domestic football.
 
Why have we repeatedly taken batterings from the likes of Leicester, Stoke and the abominable Red Scouse. Not just defeats but hammerings. We seem to have the worst training regime in the league. Injuries everywhere and players lumbering around like they're about 56 years old. The players aren't fit, are they? And they moan about the number of games they have to play more than any other squad of players I know of. And all this with facilities that are state of the art and second to none ... supposedly. Do they actually train properly? I am genuinely interested abouut the training regime. Does anyone know?

Post of the week this spot on IMO. We are getting absolutely battered of teams this season, and before anyone asks, no a mickey mouse cup does not make up for it.
 

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