Why I'm giving up on football, City and Bluemoon

[jonah62]

Yes but not in a gay way or anything.

Yep, but the “real” Jesus fucked off into the desert with 12 blokes for a few years.
Can’t tell me non of them were dropping anchor in Pooh bay

 

[che_don_john]

This is exactly how I feel. Especially that about the beautiful peak of (roughly) 2010 to 2014, the Poznan Years as they've been dubbed by a couple of former posters from this place. Since Soriano it's become a little too perfect. I sort of agree and sort of disagree about Pep. I think if he was here without Soriano and Txiki's overarching sanitary influence on the club, he would feel like Mancini. But he's here because of his mates on the board, essentially. There's something too perfect about us, as you say. I was 17/18 when we won the league in 2012 and I paid £95 to see the Aguero goal. That same ticket is now £140. That's an increase of about 50%, way above inflation. Still got no idea why the club insist in pointless ticket price increases.

You make a really good point about Soriano and how that changes how Pep, I hadn't considered that. And as for ticket prices, I read somewhere that all PL clubs could let in fans for free for every single game for a season and it would barely dent annual revenue - it's such a small part of how clubs make money, compared to sponsorship and TV. Which makes the ticket prices hikes (not just us, all clubs) hard to stomach.

 

[Shirley]

How Much Do Premier League Teams Make Per Game?​

Now it’s time to find out how much every Premier League club makes per game from matchday income. Obviously, the post-Covid era has been marred by empty stadiums and at times reduced capacities. Thus, we’ll base our study on the 2018/19 campaign (as per footballcritic.com), which was the last full season to be completely unharmed by the worldwide pandemic.

Ranking	Club	Average Attendance	Average Matchday Income per game (£)
1	Manchester United	74,498	3.96 million
2	Arsenal	59,898	3.1 million
3	Liverpool	52,983	3.01 million
4	Tottenham Hotspur	54,216	2.92 million
5	Chelsea	40,437	2.08 million
6	Manchester City	54,143	2.08 million

 

[Chappie]

You make a really good point about Soriano and how that changes how Pep, I hadn't considered that. And as for ticket prices, I read somewhere that all PL clubs could let in fans for free for every single game for a season and it would barely dent annual revenue - it's such a small part of how clubs make money, compared to sponsorship and TV. Which makes the ticket prices hikes (not just us, all clubs) hard to stomach.

It is a myth that you could let everyone in for a season for free.
We have a average of 54000 people attending each match paying an average of 40 pound per match.
19 premier league x 54000 people paying 40 pound each = 48 million pounds.
Last seasons turnover was circa 600 million pounds.
So premier league gate receipts are approx 8% of annual turnover, add on all cup competitions and you will be taking that percentage up to 10, which equates to 60 million pounds per season.
Of the top of my head,I think we recorded a 10 million pound profit last year, take the above gate receipts off and you have turned that into a 50 million pound loss.
As a buisness would anyone dismiss 10% of your yearly income as barely a "dent",if you would, you would soon be out of buisness.

 

[Keeper!]

Seeing as it's been Kate Bush night on BBC2 I thought it time to post this in here...

Kate would be singing this if anyone is sick and tired of MCFC and football

 

[hammocity]

You make a really good point about Soriano and how that changes how Pep, I hadn't considered that. And as for ticket prices, I read somewhere that all PL clubs could let in fans for free for every single game for a season and it would barely dent annual revenue - it's such a small part of how clubs make money, compared to sponsorship and TV. Which makes the ticket prices hikes (not just us, all clubs) hard to stomach.

Oh dear, don't apply to go on Dragons Den, if you think 10% of revenue is a dent you really don't get the Commercial reality of a business.

 

[hammocity]

It is a myth that you could let everyone in for a season for free.
We have a average of 54000 people attending each match paying an average of 40 pound per match.
19 premier league x 54000 people paying 40 pound each = 48 million pounds.
Last seasons turnover was circa 600 million pounds.
So premier league gate receipts are approx 8% of annual turnover, add on all cup competitions and you will be taking that percentage up to 10, which equates to 60 million pounds per season.
Of the top of my head,I think we recorded a 10 million pound profit last year, take the above gate receipts off and you have turned that into a 50 million pound loss.
As a buisness would anyone dismiss 10% of your yearly income as barely a "dent",if you would, you would soon be out of buisness.

Just over 2m profit in the latest accounts but your post is spot on, nigh on 60m loss, in the current climate would have UEFA and the Premier League frothing at the mouth.

 

[hammocity]

How Much Do Premier League Teams Make Per Game?​

Now it’s time to find out how much every Premier League club makes per game from matchday income. Obviously, the post-Covid era has been marred by empty stadiums and at times reduced capacities. Thus, we’ll base our study on the 2018/19 campaign (as per footballcritic.com), which was the last full season to be completely unharmed by the worldwide pandemic.

Ranking	Club	Average Attendance	Average Matchday Income per game (£)
1	Manchester United	74,498	3.96 million
2	Arsenal	59,898	3.1 million
3	Liverpool	52,983	3.01 million
4	Tottenham Hotspur	54,216	2.92 million
5	Chelsea	40,437	2.08 million
6	Manchester City	54,143	2.08 million

The Dipper income surprises me, I thought they were Socialists and it would be 2 shillings each with a 50% discount if you wear a flat cap, hob nail boots and a Donkey jacket.

 

[che_don_john]

Oh dear, don't apply to go on Dragons Den, if you think 10% of revenue is a dent you really don't get the Commercial reality of a business.

No, I don't think 10% of revenue is a dent: I just didn't think it was as much as 10%, as I'd been led to believe it was much lower, so I'm happy to have been corrected on that. Nevertheless, I still don't believe City or any Premier League club should have increased ticket prices to the extent that they have.

 

[SamTheGuru]

So this is my last post. 55 years after my first match seeing City. 10 years a season ticket holder 1985 to 1995 until work and family took me too far away. I was there in 2012 and was there for that Tuart goal. Been to many but not all recent cup finals.
I have been vocal about VAR, CAS and FFP.
So, today I have decided I have fallen out of love with this game, the trolls on this forum and the corruption hiding in plain sight both financial and governance. Refereeing and game manipulation and arguing the toss with morons and hypocrites.
My passion has faded with each passing year of vested interest interference, press compliance and journalistic spite.
And, yes, VAR has killed my excitement. Thank God we didn't have to wait for it in 2012. A moment that will never be repeated again in football history.
In truth, this has been coming for a while. I will sign off and find a new passion. City are not to blame. I watched football for the fun and passion. I now know more about global politics, financial compliance and sports governance than I do about our own under 18s. Something has gone drastically wrong with the game.
Our own forum has also become raggish and dipperish, misogynistic and trolled by posters who don't even support the club... And then the fans who love certain players rather than the club. Yes I'm old and I won't be missed but I already feel better letting go. Good luck fighting the good but ultimately doomed battle.
Thanks City for the best and worst times of my life but life is too short.

Well if that was how you wanted to sign of after 55 years then you should be asking yourself questions.