Why the hate for Adebayor?

redmizzle said:
uwe282828 said:
Im gonna throw a spanner in the works,How OLD do people actually think Ade is?i was speaking to a Nigerian fella recently who nearly laughed his head off when i said he was only 26.We all know there were no birth records in Africa 25 years ago so how old is he?did Wenger know something we dont. Has he got 10 years left in him at the top?was he over valued due to age correction?lots of questions about this guy.
im not sure but it made me think....
total bollox.. no birth records in africa 25 years ago? you ever been to the place ? or you're just going on what you see on tv? bet you're one of these ignorant people who thinks africa is one big country.dunno if you realise it but your comment is borderline xenophobic and racist.
Do they have TV in Africa?
 
redmizzle said:
uwe282828 said:
Im gonna throw a spanner in the works,How OLD do people actually think Ade is?i was speaking to a Nigerian fella recently who nearly laughed his head off when i said he was only 26.We all know there were no birth records in Africa 25 years ago so how old is he?did Wenger know something we dont. Has he got 10 years left in him at the top?was he over valued due to age correction?lots of questions about this guy.
im not sure but it made me think....
total bollox.. no birth records in africa 25 years ago? you ever been to the place ? or you're just going on what you see on tv? bet you're one of these ignorant people who thinks africa is one big country.dunno if you realise it but your comment is borderline xenophobic and racist.

Whilst they probably had birth certificates, they were notoriously suspect.

From the British Journal of Sports Medicine....

Detecting the presence of over-age players in age-related tournaments has been a difficult challenge for many sports organisations. “Age-doping” is a form of cheating that involves falsification of information about the age of a player to gain advantage in the sport. This clearly contradicts the ethics of sport and fair play.

Until now, the age of competitors has generally been proven by official documents such as birth certificates. In some regions of the world, however, births are registered at police stations or rural health clinics, or by village elders. Since births do not take place at established hospitals, their registration is often delayed because of cultural, religious and climatic reasons. At times, the large distance between a place of residence and a registration “office” can mean days of travel (and hence delay). Thus, the official “birth certificate” may not reflect the actual date of birth.

In addition to this phenomenon, there is compelling evidence that some players carry documents that are deliberately falsified. In some competitions, officials’ suspicions were raised when an entire team had birthdays in the same month of the year or when numerous players on the team had consecutive serial numbers on their birth certificates. It was also noted that some players appeared to have two sets of travel documents, and officials were bemused when players were shopping for teddy bears for their children in an “under 16” tournament. There was clearly a need to put a stop to this unhealthy practice and bring honour to the sport.

Physical appearances can be deceptive. No scientific tool can accurately match bone age with chronological age. However, skeletal maturation is a reliable variable in evaluating the “tempo” of growth. Evaluation can be based on methods such as development of dentition or the methods described in the Greulich and Pyle Radiological Atlas or by Tanner and Whitehouse. x Rays are commonly used for this purpose for medical or legal indications. Wrist x rays are readily available and cheap, and emit low radiation. However, the use of x ray radiation is illegal in most countries for non-criminal purposes (WHO, IAEA). Member associations of FIFA objected to the use of x rays for this purpose in football players.

In the lead-up to November’s FIFA U-17 World Cup Nigeria 2009, officials were having familiar discussions. “Are all the players on the competing teams really 17 or under?” Competing teams often raise questions about players who look older than expected. FIFA and all member associations are obliged to provide a level playing field for all players participating at FIFA competitions. Over-aged players clearly have an unfair advantage due to their higher physical maturity as compared with players of correct chronological age.

Next Section
Age determination using MRI of the wrist as an alternative to x rays

In 2003, in response to numerous requests by member associations, FIFA’s Medical Assessment and Research Centre (F-MARC) started to investigate the use of biological markers for age determination.

MRI scans of the wrist were performed in more than 500 football players who had confirmed birth certificates. These players of different ethnical origin (Switzerland, Malaysia, Algeria, Argentina, Senegal) were aged between 14 and 19 years. A six-point grading system for the fusion of the growth plate was developed.1 Based upon the normal population, complete fusion was very unlikely to occur prior to 17 years of age; the probability was below 1%. In other words, if MRI shows complete fusion of a player’s wrist, the player is likely to be older than 17 years with a certainty of more than 99%. F-MARC then performed MRI scans of the wrist on players selected randomly at the FIFA U-17 World Cups 2003, 2005 and 2007. The MRI scans of these players showed far higher rates of fusion (up to 35%) than the reference populations2

To tackle this potential problem of overage players, FIFA will conduct an MRI of the wrist at the FIFA U-17 World Cup in November. Randomly selected players will be tested in Nigeria under the supervision of FIFA’s medical experts. It is noteworthy that following this announcement, some teams who qualified for the competition replaced up to 15 players from the original squad!

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There is usually no smoke without a fire.
And yes i have travelled around Africa in a football capacity.
 
Doesn't matter what age he is, physically he's fine and doesn't look like slowing down any time soon. If he ran like Kanu then i'd care.
 
redmizzle said:
uwe282828 said:
Im gonna throw a spanner in the works,How OLD do people actually think Ade is?i was speaking to a Nigerian fella recently who nearly laughed his head off when i said he was only 26.We all know there were no birth records in Africa 25 years ago so how old is he?did Wenger know something we dont. Has he got 10 years left in him at the top?was he over valued due to age correction?lots of questions about this guy.
im not sure but it made me think....
total bollox.. no birth records in africa 25 years ago? you ever been to the place ? or you're just going on what you see on tv? bet you're one of these ignorant people who thinks africa is one big country.dunno if you realise it but your comment is borderline xenophobic and racist.
When he came to Europe they would have counted the notches on his spear, as long as the spear was intact his age should be correct!
 
Brendan110_0 said:
My dad just called Ade a donkey.....will be off to the bookies tomorrow to put a tenner on him winning the golden boot next season (the last striker he called a donkey was actually a GOAT!)

LOL. Now thats what I call 'walk the talk'.
G'wan take the walk mi' son<br /><br />-- Wed May 12, 2010 1:37 am --<br /><br />
Brendan110_0 said:
My dad just called Ade a donkey.....will be off to the bookies tomorrow to put a tenner on him winning the golden boot next season (the last striker he called a donkey was actually a GOAT!)

LOL. Now thats what I call 'walk the talk'.
G'wan take the walk mi' son
 
He picks which games he wants to play in too often for my liking. Arsenal at home early this season he was out of this world-chased everything, didn't shirk tackles, held it up, took players on and scored a goal. Since the bans/Cup of nations/injuries he's been too in and out for me. That said I don't hate/dislike him, he's had a hell of a lot on his plate this season. I hope he gets his head right and comes back being the player we saw in Aug/Sept, because if he doesn't he'll end up at an average premiership club not one chasing for honours.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
I think the press in this country have propagated a lot of very negative opinions on Adebayor, many of them very unfair and unjustified. I thought it before he joined us tbh, always rated him highly and never really liked the way the press talked about him. I always think there is a touch of the Ron Atkinsons in much of what is written about him. And inevitably if the media say something enough, SOME people tend to believe.

Right. Its call the tail wagging the dog.
Great to know that you are not one of the dupes.
We are cognizant of the Agent Provacateurs (pardon my French) , PRs with their agendas spreading their vile & blatant lies. Its our genuine fans who ought to know better than to perpetuate their crap.

C'mon everyone of us was thrilled & excited by his 9.84 celebratory run. No?
We were on a tear & terrifying up the big 4, until his subsequent ban. Hence the SSN, embedded top 4 press & media were hounding for his suspension to stop our JUGERNAUT.

Once you are off for a few games its hard & takes time for a top player or striker like Ade to get back into 'sync'.

To wit Tevez performance when he return back from his injury

In fainess to Ade, his problems began with the 'jilted' Gunners (also smack of Ashley Cole's rants) after his injury by Shawcross who took Ade out on the sideline.

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blueplan said:
Lancet Fluke said:
I think the press in this country have propagated a lot of very negative opinions on Adebayor, many of them very unfair and unjustified. I thought it before he joined us tbh, always rated him highly and never really liked the way the press talked about him. I always think there is a touch of the Ron Atkinsons in much of what is written about him. And inevitably if the media say something enough, SOME people tend to believe.

Right. Its call the tail wagging the dog.
Great to know that you are not one of the dupes.
We are cognizant of the Agent Provacateurs (pardon my French) , PRs with their agendas spreading their vile & blatant lies. Its our genuine fans who ought to know better than to perpetuate their crap.

C'mon everyone of us was thrilled & excited by his 9.84 celebratory run. No?
We were on a tear & terrifying up the big 4, until his subsequent ban. Hence the SSN, embedded top 4 press & media were hounding for his suspension to stop our JUGERNAUT.

Once you are off for a few games its hard & takes time for a top player or striker like Ade to get back into 'sync'.

To wit Tevez performance when he return back from his injury

In fainess to Ade, his problems began with the 'jilted' Gunners (also smack of Ashley Cole's rants) after his injury by Shawcross who took Ade out on the sideline.

Same happened to Anelka (it stems from a lot of papers having a disproportionate numbers of Arsenal fans) when he got called 'Le sulk' because he wanted to join Real Madrid. If you ask anyone who ever met Anelka at city they all say he was a polite, humble but very shy/quiet man. He never caused any off the field problems here or anyone else since-doesn't drink etc. Maybe he did sulk a bit as a SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD KID- but he still gets tarred with that nickname today.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
I think the press in this country have propagated a lot of very negative opinions on Adebayor, many of them very unfair and unjustified. I thought it before he joined us tbh, always rated him highly and never really liked the way the press talked about him. I always think there is a touch of the Ron Atkinsons in much of what is written about him. And inevitably if the media say something enough, people tend to believe.

THIS^^^ The press do seem to dictate peoples opinions on players way to much.
 

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