Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[chesterbells]

Despite all the interesting debate, who the fuck are we supposed to replace him with:

A) Mourinho - by common consent a great manager but also a graceless twunt who would grate with many supporters' values (and probably the owners too), or
B) Guardiola - by common consent a fantastic achiever with Barca, and a much more acceptable human being, but with no experience elsewhere?

Answer either of these and half the forum will disagree. Let's give Mancini until the end of the season at the very least, please.

Tbf, I'm not sure if many of the mancini doubters, such as myself, are seriously suggesting he should be gone tomorrow. I think some would agree with you.

 

[Brendan110_0]

How dare we keep a manager for 3 years, it's too un-city like!

Guardiola - won trophies off the back of Rijkaard's good work (everyone forgets that).

Mourinho - did he win CL for Chelsea? nope! So no improvement on what we have now.

 

[Ducado]

Everyone has to remember that apart from the handful of obsessives on here (well all 5 of them) win on Sunday and no one will even think of getting rid of him.

The said obsessives have allowed their hatred of the manager to get in the way of their support of the club, they never come on here when we win, as sure as night follows day after a bad result they are on here, they want you to know just how right they are, so they will hijack threads, just so they get the message through loud and clear, a very sad state of affairs

 

[akcity]

All this eulogising of Ferguson is wrong.

He's a good manager who for 25 years has been in charge of the richest club in the world bar none.

In that time he has won two champions leagues, both of which were extremely fortuitous.

In the same period Milan have won 5, Barca 4 and so on. In other words hardly dominating Europe.

I think you are missing the fact that Fergiescum didn't have anything like a stellar squad for much of his time at The Swamp.

Mancini has World Cup winners, Euro winners and CL winners in his squad pretty much from day 1.

He still managers to be as tactically inept in Europe as he always was.

Can't fault the guy domestically but in Europe....

A lot of Blues need to realise that he is not indispensable. We went thru all this with Sven!

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

Despite all the interesting debate, who the fuck are we supposed to replace him with:

A) Mourinho - by common consent a great manager but also a graceless twunt who would grate with many supporters' values (and probably the owners too), or
B) Guardiola - by common consent a fantastic achiever with Barca, and a much more acceptable human being, but with no experience elsewhere?

Answer either of these and half the forum will disagree. Let's give Mancini until the end of the season at the very least, please.

Unless for a major collapse in our league form I cant see the owners sacking Mancini, if he wins the league he deserves another summer to put right the glaring deficiencies in our squad. No title and I think hes a goner and either Pep or Mourinho (almost guaranteed to leave Madrid at the end of the season) will take over possibly klopp as an outsider. Chelsea will be also looking at Pep though so Mourinho might be the only logical choice, people may not like him but he is almost guaranteed to win trophies and he will bring a winning mentality.<br /><br />-- Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:16 pm --<br /><br />

How dare we keep a manager for 3 years, it's too un-city like!

Guardiola - won trophies off the back of Rijkaard's good work (everyone forgets that).

Mourinho - did he win CL for Chelsea? nope! So no improvement on what we have now.

He might win a match for us in the CL which will be an improvement.

 

[Cellarite]

The Galactico signings - Eto'o, Ibra, Kaka, Zidane etc etc - have never gone to United. He's had to work with Danny fucking Welbeck for god's sake. Can you imagine Real or Barca signing Danny fucking Welbeck. Good grief.

Jesus wept, you're tripping over yourself to big up Baconface. Did Danny Welbeck equalise or hit the winner in the Nou Camp? Which penalty did he take against Chelsea in Moscow? He's only had to make do with the likes of Welbeck over the last 2-3 years. In the 99 treble season he had Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke, Teddy Sheringham and Ole Solskjaer. A couple of years later, when they'd won the league in April, he went out and bought van Nistlerooy and Veron, two of the most sought after players in Europe. Today that'd be like us signing De Rossi and Falcao. He still didn't win the Champions League with them though. He only won it again after he'd stumbled upon Ronaldo who happened to be the player who was set to be the second best player in the World.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Depends which way you want to look at it.
The question is can Mancini EVER win us the champions league?
On the evidence of consistent disastrous european campaigns since his tenure began than you would have to say no. People have to look at the facts.

 

[Cellarite]

Depends which way you want to look at it.
The question is can Mancini EVER win us the champions league?
On the evidence of consistent disastrous european campaigns since his tenure began than you would have to say no. People have to look at the facts.

I'm not sure that Mancini sends out the team to play slow, boring, pass around in our half football. If he does then fair enough, he has to sort it but I believe that he simply trusts the players too much. They've delivered for him in the past and he believes they'll deliver again even when all the signs are pointing towards them not.

 

[jimharri]

Depends which way you want to look at it.
The question is can Mancini EVER win us the champions league?
On the evidence of consistent disastrous european campaigns since his tenure began than you would have to say no. People have to look at the facts.

Can't see it myself. His track record at Inter and here suggests that he is regularly coming up short in coping with European games. As I said earlier in this thread, ADUG now have to choose. Do they want European success? If they do, then Bob is on very thin ice, as I don't believe he is the man to win us the CL. However, if HRH and his board are happy to pick up domestic trophies and forget about Europe, then Mancini has undoubtedly proved that he is more than capable of rising to that challenge. Difficult choice, and I don't envy them having to make that choice. This past 18 months has been fantastic, and I'd be sorry to see Mancini go, if that is what ADUG decide.

 

[Bill]

Despite all the interesting debate, who the fuck are we supposed to replace him with:

A) Mourinho - by common consent a great manager but also a graceless twunt who would grate with many supporters' values (and probably the owners too), or
B) Guardiola - by common consent a fantastic achiever with Barca, and a much more acceptable human being, but with no experience elsewhere?

Answer either of these and half the forum will disagree. Let's give Mancini until the end of the season at the very least, please.

Tbf, I'm not sure if many of the mancini doubters, such as myself, are seriously suggesting he should be gone tomorrow. I think some would agree with you.

i'm not keen on some of bob tactics and substitutions and have said so from day one but it is vital we put all this talk of a change to bed. we need to show unity roll our sleeves up and win the prem again. bob to me has earned the chance to sort our problems out. that starts with a solid city beating the rags on sunday.

 

[John.des]

Dont know how people can compare winning CL with staying alive after group stage.

"We wouldnt win it anyway". That's sure because when Mancini did OK in the group stages with Inter he went trough 4/4 with them he never won it as he always failed in later rounds. Never reached a semi final with Inter. Even if they spent more money on wages than Bayern, United, Milan, Barca. Only Real and Chelsea spent more money on wages in Mancini's Inter years.

Now its little bit worse as only Real, Barca (PSG) gives higher wages than City but there are lot more teams that are better than us in CL.

But staying alive after group tages is not something extraordinary thing. As other smaller teams with lot weaker squads, lot smaller wage list, lot worse managers prove it every year.

Celtic can be still in it in February ffs.

 

[OB1]

How dare we keep a manager for 3 years, it's too un-city like!

Guardiola - won trophies off the back of Rijkaard's good work (everyone forgets that).

Mourinho - did he win CL for Chelsea? nope! So no improvement on what we have now.

Rijkaard's team were on the downward and Guardiola turned them around and into perhaps the best club team the world has ever seen.

 

[Ducado]

Despite all the interesting debate, who the fuck are we supposed to replace him with:

A) Mourinho - by common consent a great manager but also a graceless twunt who would grate with many supporters' values (and probably the owners too), or
B) Guardiola - by common consent a fantastic achiever with Barca, and a much more acceptable human being, but with no experience elsewhere?

Answer either of these and half the forum will disagree. Let's give Mancini until the end of the season at the very least, please.

Tbf, I'm not sure if many of the mancini doubters, such as myself, are seriously suggesting he should be gone tomorrow. I think some would agree with you.

i'm not keen on some of bob tactics and substitutions and have said so from day one but it is vital we put all this talk of a change to bed. we need to show unity roll our sleeves up and win the prem again. bob to me has earned the chance to sort our problems out. that starts with a solid city beating the rags on sunday.

With you on that one Bill, if their is any changing to do it should wait until the end of the season we are in a good position to forge ahead with little other distractions now, it would be nice to progress in the FA cup but retaining the title is all that matters now, I wish we would have done better but the fact of the matter is we fluffed it, onwards and upwards

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Despite all the interesting debate, who the fuck are we supposed to replace him with:

A) Mourinho - by common consent a great manager but also a graceless twunt who would grate with many supporters' values (and probably the owners too), or
B) Guardiola - by common consent a fantastic achiever with Barca, and a much more acceptable human being, but with no experience elsewhere?

Answer either of these and half the forum will disagree. Let's give Mancini until the end of the season at the very least, please.

Tbf, I'm not sure if many of the mancini doubters, such as myself, are seriously suggesting he should be gone tomorrow. I think some would agree with you.

i'm not keen on some of bob tactics and substitutions and have said so from day one but it is vital we put all this talk of a change to bed. we need to show unity roll our sleeves up and win the prem again. bob to me has earned the chance to sort our problems out. that starts with a solid city beating the rags on sunday.

We have to get behind him but sooner or later ADUG will want to win the champions league to elevate us on a global stage even further. Roll the dice stick with BM until next season but if we have another european failure pep or Jose could be sitting nicely in new jobs. Thats the conundrum which is why I think he has to win the league.

 

[OB1]

Tbf, I'm not sure if many of the mancini doubters, such as myself, are seriously suggesting he should be gone tomorrow. I think some would agree with you.

i'm not keen on some of bob tactics and substitutions and have said so from day one but it is vital we put all this talk of a change to bed. we need to show unity roll our sleeves up and win the prem again. bob to me has earned the chance to sort our problems out. that starts with a solid city beating the rags on sunday.

With you on that one Bill, if their is any changing to do it should wait until the end of the season we are in a good position to forge ahead with little other distractions now, it would be nice to progress in the FA cup but retaining the title is all that matters now, I wish we would have done better but the fact of the matter is we fluffed it, onwards and upwards

Don't think many people are suggesting Bobby should go now.

 

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

All this eulogising of Ferguson is wrong.

He's a good manager who for 25 years has been in charge of the richest club in the world bar none.

In that time he has won two champions leagues, both of which were extremely fortuitous.

In the same period Milan have won 5, Barca 4 and so on. In other words hardly dominating Europe.

An astonishing post. I daresay nobody on here particularly likes SAF but few of a sane disposition would doubt that he is a top class manager. I lived in Aberdeen from 1970 until 1986 and of course he transformed Aberdeen from a decent side into a top side both at home and in Europe on a budget of about £25 and I had the pleasure of watching them regularly cuff the OF home and away. This achievement should not be underestimated and will never be repeated.
He has done something few other managers have done and that is build several Man Utd sides over a period of time who have consistently remained competitive, have consistently won trophies and he's kept them up there for nearly 20 years.....at the top or thereabouts of the domestic scene. How many have done that in the English game in the past 50 years?
An irritating and hypocritical old tosser, no doubt about that but c'mon on, he's done okay.

 

[Chippy_boy]

The Galactico signings - Eto'o, Ibra, Kaka, Zidane etc etc - have never gone to United. He's had to work with Danny fucking Welbeck for god's sake. Can you imagine Real or Barca signing Danny fucking Welbeck. Good grief.

Jesus wept, you're tripping over yourself to big up Baconface. Did Danny Welbeck equalise or hit the winner in the Nou Camp? Which penalty did he take against Chelsea in Moscow? He's only had to make do with the likes of Welbeck over the last 2-3 years. In the 99 treble season he had Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke, Teddy Sheringham and Ole Solskjaer. A couple of years later, when they'd won the league in April, he went out and bought van Nistlerooy and Veron, two of the most sought after players in Europe. Today that'd be like us signing De Rossi and Falcao. He still didn't win the Champions League with them though. He only won it again after he'd stumbled upon Ronaldo who happened to be the player who was set to be the second best player in the World.

Whatever. Seems like you can't get your head around what I was saying but never mind.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Depends which way you want to look at it.
The question is can Mancini EVER win us the champions league?
On the evidence of consistent disastrous european campaigns since his tenure began than you would have to say no. People have to look at the facts.

The evidence screams that he is out of his depth in the champions league. It's ridiculous to argue anything else.

 

[Chippy_boy]

i'm not keen on some of bob tactics and substitutions and have said so from day one but it is vital we put all this talk of a change to bed. we need to show unity roll our sleeves up and win the prem again. bob to me has earned the chance to sort our problems out. that starts with a solid city beating the rags on sunday.

Don't mean to pick on your words mate, but really I don't think it's vital we put all this talk to bed. In fact I wouldn't say it was even important, or actually relevant. We can say what we like and it makes no difference.

ADUG will decide what to do, or not do, and all talk on here is banter, nothing more.

 

[Martyn]

Tbf, I'm not sure if many of the mancini doubters, such as myself, are seriously suggesting he should be gone tomorrow. I think some would agree with you.

i'm not keen on some of bob tactics and substitutions and have said so from day one but it is vital we put all this talk of a change to bed. we need to show unity roll our sleeves up and win the prem again. bob to me has earned the chance to sort our problems out. that starts with a solid city beating the rags on sunday.

We have to get behind him but sooner or later ADUG will want to win the champions league to elevate us on a global stage even further. Roll the dice stick with BM until next season but if we have another european failure pep or Jose could be sitting nicely in new jobs. Thats the conundrum which is why I think he has to win the league.

As someone pointed out on another thread, Morinho and Pep will have jobs lined up before the end of the season. The board will have to make a decision before possibly February if they want either of them two to replace him.