Will voting no in the referendum harm us

Let's be honest here. The UK government want us to remain, the EU wants us to remain. Regardless of any vote, what do you think the result will be? I don't trust any of them to be honest, I suspect plenty of underhanded shinanegans, to be going on to keep us in.

on the money.

when we had the referendum to go in I voted out. every single person I spoke to both before and after the event said they too voted out.

the decision to join showed a return of 2 to 1 in favour of joining. it was bent as fuck then and it'll bent as fuck this time.
 
on the money.

when we had the referendum to go in I voted out. every single person I spoke to both before and after the event said they too voted out.

the decision to join showed a return of 2 to 1 in favour of joining. it was bent as fuck then and it'll bent as fuck this time.

It's so blatantly obvious, this country is dodgy as fk. !!
 
With the referendum just 3 weeks away tomorrow. If a No vote wins will UEFA use it to harm us in any future draws for the Champions League, by being pressured by the bigwigs from Brussels. I do know this shouldn't happen but the way most things have gone against us it wouldn't surprise me at all

Good piece here,

In the run-up to the Brexit referendum, there have been a steadily increasing number of articles on the Brexit consequences for the Premier League. This blog sets out our high level thoughts on what we can expect to see down the track should Brexit occur and the consequences for work permits, free movement, quotas and free transfers in the Premier League.

Work Permits and Free Movement

The doomsday scenario suggested by some (such as here and here) is that Brexit would result in a host of players who fail to meet the current work permit criteria.

“More than 100 Premier League players would be affected with Aston Villa, Newcastle United and Watford facing losing 11 players from their squads”.

Whilst this observation is correct, it sidesteps one fundamental principle, namely, that it remains unlikely that the same work permit principles which currently apply to non-European Economic Area (EEA) workers would similarly apply to EEA workers post-Brexit. This is set out below in more detail........

http://www.danielgeey.com/what-would-brexit-really-mean-for-the-premier-league/
 
Good piece here,

In the run-up to the Brexit referendum, there have been a steadily increasing number of articles on the Brexit consequences for the Premier League. This blog sets out our high level thoughts on what we can expect to see down the track should Brexit occur and the consequences for work permits, free movement, quotas and free transfers in the Premier League.

Work Permits and Free Movement

The doomsday scenario suggested by some (such as here and here) is that Brexit would result in a host of players who fail to meet the current work permit criteria.

“More than 100 Premier League players would be affected with Aston Villa, Newcastle United and Watford facing losing 11 players from their squads”.

Whilst this observation is correct, it sidesteps one fundamental principle, namely, that it remains unlikely that the same work permit principles which currently apply to non-European Economic Area (EEA) workers would similarly apply to EEA workers post-Brexit. This is set out below in more detail........

http://www.danielgeey.com/what-would-brexit-really-mean-for-the-premier-league/

So no control over EEA immigration with and exit anyway? The main campaign reason for voting for it...laughable.
 
So no control over EEA immigration with and exit anyway? The main campaign reason for voting for it...laughable.

Of course there'll be changes to Non European immigration. We'll have the ability to introduce a new system of immigration post EU membership, ideally we'd be able to introduce an Australian type points based system.

Anything is possible once we've left the EU.
 
Of course there'll be changes to Non European immigration. We'll have the ability to introduce a new system of immigration post EU membership, ideally we'd be able to introduce an Australian type points based system.

Anything is possible once we've left the EU.

The EEA isn't non-European. Are we leaving the EEA too or not? Even the Swiss not in the EEA have the same rights don't they?
 
With the referendum just 3 weeks away tomorrow. If a No vote wins will UEFA use it to harm us in any future draws for the Champions League, by being pressured by the bigwigs from Brussels. I do know this shouldn't happen but the way most things have gone against us it wouldn't surprise me at all
It won't have any effect on UEFA in that sense many uefa members are non EU. It will mean labour laws would need to be changed for football as the rules governing international caps and appearances would govern EU players too so well over 100 perm footballers wouldn't necessarily be eligible for work visas . Also it could result in a weakened pound short term and less spending power. But the latter shouldn't matter as the Prem is so much richer
 
Well I want us to remain in. Why, because I now live in Ireland but have an English pension and this would depreciate against the Euro currency. Also think that the immigration issue is overplayed, the immigrants do work that Brits dont want to do anyway.
 
Well I want us to remain in. Why, because I now live in Ireland but have an English pension and this would depreciate against the Euro currency. Also think that the immigration issue is overplayed, the immigrants do work that Brits dont want to do anyway.

Is it? Well tell that to the kids who can't get low level jobs because they are filled by EU migrants who have left their own country because their economy has been fucked by the Euro and they have more experience. Who to say the the pound wont get stronger against the Euro anyhow? Once we get out other countries will be forced to hold referendums NL are next then the who house of cards will fall
 
As I understand it, we only get full control of immigration if we leave the EEA as well, and, as of yet, no one seems to have explained whether, in the event of a 'Leave' vote, we will stay in the EEA or not. It is quite important - a bit like booking to go on holiday without any information about the type of accommodation. Of course, either way illegal immigration will carry on as before because no Government seems to have a clue as to how to stop it. No British government, anyway.

But from City's POV, (assuming we quit the EEA) any footballer from outside the UK and Ireland would need some sort of work permit. And, if we are to believe what BJ is saying, these would be allocated on a points system. But what we can't know yet is how that points system would work, and whether it would be helpful or not.

Sorry, but way too much uncertainty for my liking. We should have a clearly set-out plan for what happens after we leave the EU. No such plan seems to exist, and people are just making stuff up and spending the anticipated 'saving' over and over again. I had hoped that one genuine saving might be to abolish the ludicrous subsidies to uber-rich farmers like the Queen and the Duke of Westminster. But on Countryfile BJ was clear that the farming subsidies will continue!
 
As I understand it, we only get full control of immigration if we leave the EEA as well, and, as of yet, no one seems to have explained whether, in the event of a 'Leave' vote, we will stay in the EEA or not. It is quite important - a bit like booking to go on holiday without any information about the type of accommodation. Of course, either way illegal immigration will carry on as before because no Government seems to have a clue as to how to stop it. No British government, anyway.

But from City's POV, (assuming we quit the EEA) any footballer from outside the UK and Ireland would need some sort of work permit. And, if we are to believe what BJ is saying, these would be allocated on a points system. But what we can't know yet is how that points system would work, and whether it would be helpful or not.

Sorry, but way too much uncertainty for my liking. We should have a clearly set-out plan for what happens after we leave the EU. No such plan seems to exist, and people are just making stuff up and spending the anticipated 'saving' over and over again. I had hoped that one genuine saving might be to abolish the ludicrous subsidies to uber-rich farmers like the Queen and the Duke of Westminster. But on Countryfile BJ was clear that the farming subsidies will continue!

The MLS and A-League are good examples of what our permit situation would resemble under the basic point-system proposal. Haven't seen too many players turned down, and Iheanacho was able to train with Columbus Crew before he was able to train with us. Alonso/Martins (Seattle), Poku (NYC), Andrea Mancini (DC), Mebrahtu (Gold Coast/Melbourne/Sydney), Traore (Gold Coast/Melbourne), Castro (Perth) etc. have had no trouble gaining visas, although Mebrahtu did have some problems with the A-League's internal rules, which is a different issue.
 
The one effect it will have is that we couldn't sign anyone under 18 from the likes of Spain, France as we can do now. It would be the same rules as if the kid came from Africa, South America etc

Maybe that will be a good thing for our British youngsters though
 
There is presently 14 countries that are not in the EU playing in the Champions or the Europa leagues so it should'nt make any difference when we leave the EU.
 

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