Wishy washy policing

[Chippy_boy]

So its not Communist anymore....AH RIGHT, Imagine that.

Can you please point me to where it says Communist's can not be wealthy?

So you support people having personal wealth running into billions do you? That's a new one on me if you do.

In any event, China is not Communist. To quote Tom Wetzer, writer and former Philosphy Professor, "
The ruling elite in China — and their party, the Chinese Communist Party — really have nothing to do with communism — if we are using “communism” here in the sense derived from the historical socialist movement.

China is a thoroughly capitalist country and that is why there is a sizeable elite of wealthy capitalists — owners of various kinds of businesses. The elite hold onto the name “communist” for the party because they don’t want to lose face and because occasional socialist rhetoric helps to bolster the party’s sense of legitimacy to rule."

 

[Rascal]

So you support people having personal wealth running into billions do you? That's a new one on me if you do.

In any event, China is not Communist. To quote Tom Wetzer, writer and former Philosphy Professor, "
The ruling elite in China — and their party, the Chinese Communist Party — really have nothing to do with communism — if we are using “communism” here in the sense derived from the historical socialist movement.

China is a thoroughly capitalist country and that is why there is a sizeable elite of wealthy capitalists — owners of various kinds of businesses. The elite hold onto the name “communist” for the party because they don’t want to lose face and because occasional socialist rhetoric helps to bolster the party’s sense of legitimacy to rule."

Are you now going to agree that the USSR was also not Communist.

Marx was not against wealth, he was against the exclusion from wealth. That is two totally different things. It is when wealth uses wealth to exploit those without wealth is where Marx has issues.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Are you now going to agree that the USSR was also not Communist.

Marx was not against wealth, he was against the exclusion from wealth. That is two totally different things. It is when wealth uses wealth to exploit those without wealth is where Marx has issues.

So, just for the record (I'm loving this, btw) you're saying that you are OK with people amassing a personal wealth of billions upon billions of pounds?

And whilst you're at it, some examples of successful communist economies which have propered and raised living standards for all? Needn't be recent ones, I'd be interested if you know of any?

And if there are none, how many more attempts should we give it before concluding that whether noble in principle or not, Communism simply does not work?

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

So, just for the record (I'm loving this, btw) you're saying that you are OK with people amassing a personal wealth of billions upon billions of pounds?

And whilst you're at it, some examples of successful communist economies which have propered and raised living standards for all? Needn't be recent ones, I'd be interested if you know of any?

And if there are none, how many more attempts should we give it before concluding that whether noble in principle or not, Communism simply does not work?

Please provide some examples of Communist states that were allowed to exist without sanctions being imposed for no reason other than they were communist?


BTW Cuba is now rated one of the best health services in the world (whilst the UK has dropped to 18th Since the Tories took power in 2010)

Whats a government for ? if its not to look after and protect the health , safety and wellbeing of its populace?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Please provide some examples of Communist states that were allowed to exist without sanctions being imposed for no reason other than they were communist?


BTW Cuba is now rated one of the best health services in the world (whilst the UK has dropped to 18th Since the Tories took power in 2010)

Whats a government for ? if its not to look after and protect the health , safety and wellbeing of its populace?

Deary me. 100 years of abject failure and your best effort is the Cuban health care system? Talk about clutching at straws.

Thankfully you are in a minority of about 0.01% of the UK population and therefore not even the cubed root of fuck all chance of your daft ideas ever seeing the light of day. Thank God.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Deary me. 100 years of abject failure and your best effort is the Cuban health care system? Talk about clutching at straws.

Thankfully you are in a minority of about 0.01% of the UK population and therefore not even the cubed root of fuck all chance of your daft ideas ever seeing the light of day. Thank God.

Insults .... the last refuge of those that know they have lost the argument before it even began - Samuel Leghorn Clemons (Mark Twain to you)

 

[Chippy_boy]

Insults .... the last refuge of those that know they have lost the argument before it even began - Samuel Leghorn Clemons (Mark Twain to you)

Unsurprisingly you did not realise that my comments you quoted were not an ad hominem attack, but rather were critical of your political ideology.

 

[stonerblue]

Dunno why you're slagging off Communism when any regime that could fall under the label had/has the least 'wishy-washy' policing of the lot?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Dunno why you're slagging off Communism when any regime that could fall under the label had/has the least 'wishy-washy' policing of the lot?

True, but it comes with other "baggage" doesn't it. Like everyone apart from criminals being piss poor.

 

[Zuriblue]

Dunno why you're slagging off Communism when any regime that could fall under the label had/has the least 'wishy-washy' policing of the lot?