Woolwich killing

[Dubai Blue]

R.I.P to the soldiers involved.

Terrorists attacks is getting beyond a joke. They achieve nothing with it. We in Norways surely knows, after the wanker Breivik killed a lot of innocent teenagers...

My question is though, was he really beheaded? In my book that is the most disgusting and fucked up thing you can do to another human being.

Can anyone tell me what actually happened?

Most newspapers are now reporting that they "attempted" to behead him which suggests they ultimately failed.

 

[TCIB]

A society has to be cohesive and in my opinion we're not cohesive.

We're a mixture of different people with different objectives.

but....but....but.... Robin Cook said multiculturalism would work....

It seems to work fine in Canada mate.

Canada is not the UK is it.

 

[quiet_riot]

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The BBC's political editor, Nick Robinson, has apologised after he quoted a source who apparently described the Woolwich attackers as being "of Muslim appearance".

The corporation received 43 complaints after Robinson used the phrase on BBC1's 6pm bulletin on Wednesday, hours after the savage machette attack that killed a serving soldier in London.

On Thursday, the BBC's political editor said he regretted his choice of words, writing on his official BBC blog: "With minutes to go before the BBC News at Six I was told by a senior Whitehall source that the incident was being treated as a suspected terrorist incident and being taken very seriously indeed.

"This information changed the news from a crime story to something of more significance. The police had, I was told, described the attackers as being 'of Muslim appearance; and shouting 'Allahu Akbar'. On air I directly quoted a senior Whitehall source saying that the police had used that description.

"That phrase 'of Muslim appearance' clearly offended some who demanded to know what it could possibly mean. Others were concerned that it was a racist generalisation."

His report on the BBC's most prominent bulletin was quickly picked up by media organisations around the world, who described it as evidence of a terrorist attack. Eyewitness reports later suggested that at least one of attackers had claimed to be retaliating because "Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers".

Robinson added: "Despite this and the fact that I was directly quoting a source I'm sorry for using a phrase that, on reflection, was both liable to be misinterpreted and to cause offence. Many Muslims were quick to condemn the attack and to distance themselves and their religion from the brutal savagery seen on the streets of Woolwich.

"The overnight protests of the English Defence League and attacks on some mosques lead some to fear the consequences for community relations. This all makes people understandably sensitive about anything which could be used to justify hostility to people on the basis of their appearance or religion."

Dozens of viewers complained on social networks following the broadcast. Hannah McGill, a film reviewer and panellist on BBC Four's Review Show, posted: "Whatever just happened, @BBCNews, it is entirely not OK for your correspondents to refer to anyone as 'of Muslim appearance'."

 

[dazdon]

A society has to be cohesive and in my opinion we're not cohesive.

We're a mixture of different people with different objectives.

but....but....but.... Robin Cook said multiculturalism would work....

It seems to work fine in Canada mate.

It's not just the division of culture or colour which makes us less cohesive.

Successive governments have divided us for their own needs..we can't seem to agree on anything.

Not even the basic concept of being English.

 

[mackenzie]

The sentiments are spot on, the last line, I'd dispute sadly. We'll never defeat young angry men who will go to such extremes to make a point unless we change ( Our foreign policies ) and sadly that's not happening :(

But as a society we CAN defeat them

How ?

By refusing to believe what they want us to with the hatred that they articulate.
I know it's a cliche but I believe in all people staying together and pulling as one in a movement that can't be denied or ignored.

 

[Trollsmoan]

Too many people are preoccupied about race these guys were targeting anyone in the armed forces. It did not matter what race they were so please put that rubbish to rest. The fact that it was a white squaddie is just coincidence.

How do you know that ? Did you know the two murderers then ? I won't call them terrorists, they are murderes simple as that.

Stop trolling the thread.

Indeed, what a load of utter shite, don't think many will buy that.

 

[TCIB]

But as a society we CAN defeat them

How ?

By refusing to believe what they want us to with the hatred that they articulate.
I know it's a cliche but I believe in all people staying together and pulling as one in a movement that can't be denied or ignored.

We never have pulled as one so why would we start now ?
Your unrealistic ideals are just that.

They do not just articulate, they kill do you get that KILL in the name of Islam.
How does 'pulling together' stop determined killers ?

It doesn't so you use force.

 

[didactic]

A society has to be cohesive and in my opinion we're not cohesive.

We're a mixture of different people with different objectives.

but....but....but.... Robin Cook said multiculturalism would work....

It seems to work fine in Canada mate.

It's working here too people have always had different goals and objectives. Crime as always been part of society there has never been a Eutopia in the history of mankind. If it was not this something else would cause discussion. It's a myth that single cultures equals perfect society just look at history.

 

[oman0115]

How ?

By refusing to believe what they want us to with the hatred that they articulate.
I know it's a cliche but I believe in all people staying together and pulling as one in a movement that can't be denied or ignored.

We never have pulled as one so why would we start now ?
Your unrealistic ideals are just that.

They do not just articulate, they kill do you get that KILL in the name of Islam.
How does 'pulling together' stop determined killers ?

It doesn't so you use force.

You use force? They're using force to fight against what they consider wrongs. I'm a pessimist about this situation, it's not going to change or improve IMO

 

[didactic]

Too many people are preoccupied about race these guys were targeting anyone in the armed forces. It did not matter what race they were so please put that rubbish to rest. The fact that it was a white squaddie is just coincidence.

How do you know that ? Did you know the two murderers then ? I won't call them terrorists, they are murderes simple as that.

Stop trolling the thread.

Indeed, what a load of utter shite, don't think many will buy that.

The point was to get attention by killing a soldier race plays no part in these attacks hence why the have them in Pakistan too. Whoever is turning this into a race attack did not listen to what the guys said to the lady who spoke to them.

You think it's only white people who get trouble from the extreme element? I get grief as my name is Hakeem and they call me a traitor as I am not Muslim. I kid you not when I tell you they would much rather have killed a black/Asian or Arab sqauddie as they consider these the worst traitors.

Genuine question all the people throwing out assumptions and conclusions how many of you have actually interacted with Muslims? I mean lived in their communities had friends from there actually learnt a bit about their religion and beliefs? Being a Muslim supersedes race, sex or anything else. This is why there a white, black, Arab, Asian Muslims. The religion teaches that all Muslims are brothers not based on race but belief.

Il let you continue believing this was about anything other an extreme element with warped views. They would have killed any soldier they saw first but it sounds better and stirs more fires when you say they chose him because he was white.

My the young man rest in peace.