Would You Accept A Rapist Playing For City?

blueincy said:
SWP's back said:
blueincy said:
In Saudi Arabia criminal cases are tried under Sharia courts in the country. These courts exercise authority over the entire population including foreigners regardless of religion. Cases involving small penalties are tried in Shari'a summary courts.

Yes, their legal system prescribes capital punishment or corporal punishment, including amputations of hands and feet for certain crimes such as murder, robbery, rape, drug smuggling, homosexual activity, and adultery. Sometimes they may impose less severe punishments, such as floggings, for less serious crimes against public morality such as drunkenness.
So if you would have said KSA rather than an "Islamic State" you would have been correct.

But you didn't.

pedantic
Not at all pedantic.

It was just a sweeping generalisation about all Islamic countries based on one.

It would be like trying to state that all gun ownership is legal in Western secular societies based on just the USA. And it is not just you, it is simply the way that most British folk generalise about Islam and the middle east due to ignorance.
 
SWP's back said:
Tanzeylee said:
SWP's back said:
Burglars aren't criminals, they are burglars.

Hahaha this forum just gets weirder by the day.
U will be telling me next rags arnt c**ts there just rags...
Rag c**ts.

ps - why the self censorship when we all know what you meant?

Point taken.

I use self censorship as a form of zen meditation, it cleanses the soul...
 
SWP's back said:
dobobobo said:
SWP's back said:
Incorrect.

Back it up then, does no one no good just to say incorrect.
I don't have to back it up. It is simply incorrect. I know as I live in an Islamic State.

You go to jail/get fined.

No, you really do.

It's a bit like saying if a grey squirrel is caught in England it's against the law to release it. Here's back up that it's true:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rsne.org.uk/squirrels-and-law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rsne.org.uk/squirrels-and-law</a>

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.gov.uk/wild-mammals-management-and-control-options" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.gov.uk/wild-mammals-managem ... ol-options</a>
 
SWP's back said:
blueincy said:
SWP's back said:
So if you would have said KSA rather than an "Islamic State" you would have been correct.

But you didn't.

pedantic
Not at all pedantic.

It was just a sweeping generalisation about all Islamic countries based on one.

It would be like trying to state that all gun ownership is legal in Western secular societies based on just the USA. And it is not just you, it is simply the way that most British folk generalise about Islam and the middle east due to ignorance.

According to islamic law, if someone steals, his hand will be cut off.
 
dobobobo said:
SWP's back said:
dobobobo said:
Back it up then, does no one no good just to say incorrect.
I don't have to back it up. It is simply incorrect. I know as I live in an Islamic State.

You go to jail/get fined.

No, you really do.

It's a bit like saying if a grey squirrel is caught in England it's against the law to release it. Here's back up that it's true:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rsne.org.uk/squirrels-and-law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rsne.org.uk/squirrels-and-law</a>

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.gov.uk/wild-mammals-management-and-control-options" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.gov.uk/wild-mammals-managem ... ol-options</a>
No, it was the other poster that stated a position. He could choose to back that up but was unable to as it was incorrect.

Ride my dick all night if you want mind.
 
SWP's back said:
dobobobo said:
SWP's back said:
I don't have to back it up. It is simply incorrect. I know as I live in an Islamic State.

You go to jail/get fined.

No, you really do.

It's a bit like saying if a grey squirrel is caught in England it's against the law to release it. Here's back up that it's true:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rsne.org.uk/squirrels-and-law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rsne.org.uk/squirrels-and-law</a>

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.gov.uk/wild-mammals-management-and-control-options" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.gov.uk/wild-mammals-managem ... ol-options</a>
No, it was the other poster that stated a position. He could choose to back that up but was unable to as it was incorrect.

Ride my dick all night if you want mind.

You did the same.

And the point Blueincy made is one I've always heard, even earlier this year from a Muslim colleague who shares the same office. So you're incorrect until you can back it up.
 
dobobobo said:
SWP's back said:
dobobobo said:
No, you really do.

It's a bit like saying if a grey squirrel is caught in England it's against the law to release it. Here's back up that it's true:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rsne.org.uk/squirrels-and-law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rsne.org.uk/squirrels-and-law</a>

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.gov.uk/wild-mammals-management-and-control-options" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.gov.uk/wild-mammals-managem ... ol-options</a>
No, it was the other poster that stated a position. He could choose to back that up but was unable to as it was incorrect.

Ride my dick all night if you want mind.

You did the same.

And the point Blueincy made is one I've always heard, even earlier this year from a Muslim colleague who shares the same office. So you're incorrect until you can back it up.

I don't think that's the way things work. You can't just come out with something and then say if you can't prove it wrong, then it must be right.
 
dobobobo said:
SWP's back said:
dobobobo said:
No, you really do.

It's a bit like saying if a grey squirrel is caught in England it's against the law to release it. Here's back up that it's true:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rsne.org.uk/squirrels-and-law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rsne.org.uk/squirrels-and-law</a>

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.gov.uk/wild-mammals-management-and-control-options" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.gov.uk/wild-mammals-managem ... ol-options</a>
No, it was the other poster that stated a position. He could choose to back that up but was unable to as it was incorrect.

Ride my dick all night if you want mind.

You did the same.

And the point Blueincy made is one I've always heard, even earlier this year from a Muslim colleague who shares the same office. So you're incorrect until you can back it up.
From a "Muslim colleague that shares the same office"? Brilliant. Well I (unlike him) happen to live in a Muslim country.

I know plenty of Christians in my office, I very much doubt if any of them would know what the sentence is for various different crimes in Brazil and Mexico.
 
Theft is Haraam (forbidden) according to the Quran, Sunnah [sayings of Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) ] and Ijmaa’ (scholarly consensus). Allaah, the Most Exalted, has condemned this action and decreed an appropriate punishment for it. The Hadd [i.e. the legal punishment prescribed by the Sharee'ah (Islamic law)] for a thief is to cut off the thief's hand. Allaah Almighty Says in the Noble Quran (what means):

“[As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they earned [i.e. committed] as a deterrent [punishment] from Allaah. And Allaah is Exalted in Might and Wise.” [Quran 5:38]

The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) said:

“The hand (of the thief) should be cut off for (the theft of) a quarter of a Dinar or more.” [Al-Bukhaari]

The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) cursed the thief because he is a corrupt element in society, and if he is left unpunished, his corruption will spread and infect the body of the Ummah (Muslim community). He sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) said:

“May Allaah curse the thief who steals an egg and has his hand cut off, or steals a rope and has his hand cut off.” [Al-Bukhaari]

What indicates that this ruling is definitive is the fact that a Makhzoomi noblewoman (from the tribe of Makhzoom) stole at the time of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) and Usaamah Ibn Zayd may Allaah be pleased with him wanted to intercede for her. The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) became angry and said:

“Do you intercede concerning one of the Hadd set by Allaah? Those who came before you were destroyed because if a rich man among them stole, they would let him off, but if a lowly person stole, they would carry out the punishment on him. By Allaah, if Faatimah woman (daughter of) Muhammad were to steal, I would cut off her hand.” [Al-Bukhaari]

This is the ruling of Allaah concerning theft; that the hand should be cut off from the wrist joint.

Al-Nawawi may Allaah have mercy upon him said in his commentary on Saheeh Muslim (Hadeeth collection): Al-Shaafa'i, Abu Haneefah, Maalik and the majority (of scholars) may Allaah have mercy upon them said: "The hand should be cut off from the wrist, where the hand meets the forearm." Al-Qurtubi may Allaah have mercy upon him said: "All the scholars said: The hand should be cut off from the wrist, not as some of the innovators do when they cut off the fingers and leave the thumb."

Because cutting off the hand is a serious matter, it should not be done for just any case of theft. A combination of conditions must be fulfilled before the hand of a thief is cut off. These conditions are as follows:

1- The thing should have been taken by stealth; if it was not taken by stealth, then the hand should not be cut off, such as when property has been seized by force in front of other people, because in this case the owner of the property could have asked for help to stop the thief.

2- The stolen property should be something of worth, because that which is of no worth has no sanctity, such as musical instruments, wine and pigs.

2- The value of the stolen property should be above a certain limit, which is three Islamic Dirhams or a quarter of an Islamic Dinar, or their equivalent in other currencies.

3- The stolen property should have been taken from a place where it had been put away, i.e., a place where people usually put their property, such as a cupboard, for example.

4- The theft itself has to be proven, either by the testimony of two qualified witnesses or by the confession of the thief twice.

5- The person from whom the property was stolen has to ask for it back; if he does not, then (the thief’s) hand does not have to be cut off.

If these conditions are fulfilled, then the hand must be cut off. If this ruling was applied in the societies which are content with man-made laws and which have cast aside the Sharee’ah of Allaah and replaced it with human laws, this would be the most beneficial treatment for this phenomenon. But the matter is as Allaah Says (what means):

“Then is it the judgement of [the time of] ignorance they desire? But who is better than Allaah in judgement for a people who are certain [in faith].” [Quran 5:50]
 

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