Yaya Toure - commits future to City (page 855)

[edgecroft]

Re: Yaya Toure

Superior? Maybe I just hate the random and vicious abuse of some of the greatest players ever to play for City. Maybe I just really detest it when much of that appalling abuse is taking place when we are still celebrating one of the greatest triumphs in our history, and our most successful season ever. Maybe I just hate the fact that we are so easily picking on a player who has contributed so much to our recent victories.

And by the way, if Sheik Mansour said something slightly injudicious, would you all be calling for his head, and saying, Oh we'll get another Sheik whenever we want. Nope. I think you'd at least be waiting to hear the full story.

Cut Yaya some slack; he's earned it.

Random?

Yep. Random.

How's this for a list of the players we've serially abused over the past 2 years:

Hart, Kolarov, Demichelis, Richards, Nasri, Garcia, Dzeko, Jovetic.

From time to time we also enjoy abusing: Kompany, Barry, Milner, Toure, Lescott, Nastasic, Clichy.

Have I forgotten anyone?

Oh yeah, consider the abuse on this site aimed at Sergio, because some idiots thought he was more interested in playing in the world cup than playing for City.

Yep. Random. Vicious. Stupid.

You sure do hate City fans, that much is clear.

 

[pudge]

Re: Yaya Toure

Superior? Maybe I just hate the random and vicious abuse of some of the greatest players ever to play for City. Maybe I just really detest it when much of that appalling abuse is taking place when we are still celebrating one of the greatest triumphs in our history, and our most successful season ever. Maybe I just hate the fact that we are so easily picking on a player who has contributed so much to our recent victories.

And by the way, if Sheik Mansour said something slightly injudicious, would you all be calling for his head, and saying, Oh we'll get another Sheik whenever we want. Nope. I think you'd at least be waiting to hear the full story.

Cut Yaya some slack; he's earned it.

Random?

Yep. Random.

How's this for a list of the players we've serially abused over the past 2 years:

Hart, Kolarov, Demichelis, Richards, Nasri, Garcia, Dzeko, Jovetic.

From time to time we also enjoy abusing: Kompany, Barry, Milner, Toure, Lescott, Nastasic, Clichy.

Have I forgotten anyone?

Oh yeah, consider the abuse on this site aimed at Sergio, because some idiots thought he was more interested in playing in the world cup than playing for City.

Yep. Random. Vicious. Stupid.

Seeing as this is the Yaya thread I was referring to any inclination from yourself that people's feeling towards him the past few days stem from randomness..

 

[TCIB]

Re: Yaya Toure

Fuck me, there are more rags in this thread than there was in Old Trafford on 90 minutes for the sick swan.

I count 4 so far in last 20 pages, whats your tally sir?

 

[daztrueblue91]

Re: Yaya Toure

Buying a player guarantees nothing. It never has and never will. I've been watching football for long enough to know that.
When we bought him, quite a few wondered if we were buying a dud. We didn't KNOW he'd turn out to be great.
We bought Robinho, that didn't work out so well.
Real bought Kaka - a player we believed could be the signing of the century. Didn't work out too well for him there.

Look at how Tevez IS still doing a great job at Juventus. There's a player who really HAS scored wherever he's played... there was no queue to buy him at anywhere near 40m, and he wasn't 31.

We can demand all we like, but City don't dictate transfer fees, the market does. The market doesn't pay 40m for 31 year old midfielders.

That's why I said practically guarentees. You only have to look at Yaya and Ibrahimovic's CV to see that they have been successful at a number of clubs and have been instrumental in that success. Yaya has proved that he will step up to the mark when it matters.

Tevez was never considered the best player in the world in his position and there are plenty of players who can do a similar role to Tevez. Yaya on the other hand is a unique player. There is no midfielder in the world who can play the way he does, the man has got everything in his locker ability wise.

City might not dictate transfer fees but we do dictate if Yaya stays or goes. Letting him go for anything under £40 million will hinder the squad simple as.

The selling club will have a valuation of the player based on his contract length and importance to the team. As will the buying club. If Barca don't want to meet our valuation then tough shit and Yaya stays.

The cost of getting a suitable replacement for Yaya will cost £30+ million so why sell him for anything less?

You make some fair points, but the cost of replacing Rio Ferdinand will be 30 million too, but they won't be selling him for that.
City's valuation of a player will change IF that player is causing upset. That's my point. If your house is worth 100K and you don't want to sell it, then it might take 120K to persuade you to change your mind. If your house is causing you hassle, you might not sell for 80K, but you WILL sell for the 100K instead.

Once a player kicks up a storm, the balance shifts a little between 'must keep' and 'might sell', and ultimately that can only help the buying club. And that's essentially why the masters of this (Real and Bayern) like to unsettle players prior to putting in an offer for them. It's a years old trick that doesn't always work, but if it does, it's only ever in their favour.

I wouldn't disagree with that. I reckon that's why Yaya's agent has gone down this route as there is no way Barca would meet our valuation for the player.

However we shown with Tevez that we won't let a player dictate his transfer. If Yaya goes it will 100% be on City's terms.

The difference between Yaya and the Ferdinand analogy is that Yaya is in his peak years. I think you are underestimating Toure's ability due to his age. The guy is without doubt the best all around midfielder in Europe and this season he has added free kicks and more long range goals to his locker.

Lets look at the situation a different way. The boardroom situation in the Spanish clubs means that there is even more pressure on the board to deliver success. If the recent reports are true that Barca are indeed after a strong physical midfielder to bolster their squad then that puts us in a stronger position. Yaya is without doubt the best physical midfielder in the world and your chances of success are boosted by getting the more accomplished players in.

£40 million for a 31 year old is without doubt a risk but so is £40 million for any player. I mentioned on another thread a while back that people are so caught up in looking at potential in a player that they ignore the immediate benefit. I honestly reckon that if we openly touted Yaya to every top club in Europe, including the PL, then a number of clubs would match the asking price.

I just think the way we dealt with the Tevez situation has shown that we will not be intimidated by agents and players demands.

 

[pudge]

Re: Yaya Toure

The quotes were not "off the cuff".

The agent arranged an exclusive with a tabloid paper.

2 days have passed and the only response we know of from Yaya is an interview with Bein sports that doesn't deny anything but rather justifies his agent's words and actions.

Yaya has stated that he won't say anything until after the World Cup, that's about 2 months away.. How very nice of him, that's not arrogant at all...

The attention is on Yaya and his agent, he's made himself a easy target. Anything the media has written or portrayed is on Yaya due to the ammunition he has given them, the club has been backed. There's been no hyperbole from the media; this is a big enough story as it is, the fact it's so bizarre means it will gain exposure.

To say "because media" doesn't wash because it doesn't make sense.

The Yaya interview was BEFORE all this happened. It has to be completely discounted, and there's nothing remotely wrong with anything he said.
It's being banded about by a lot of fans as an interview subsequent to the 'cake gate'. This is incorrect.

The interview may have been before his agent went mad but when was it filmed? Presumably it must have been the last few days?

No way IMO can it be discounted. It's too much of coincidence don't you think for him to be discussing his agent in glowing terms, saying everything is in the open now and for the site to be showing it as an exclusive only today?

Anything I've read says the interview was conducted yesterday

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Re: Yaya Toure

Fuck me, there are more rags in this thread than there was in Old Trafford on 90 minutes for the sick swan.

Good to see you back doing what you do best.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Re: Yaya Toure

Superior? Maybe I just hate the random and vicious abuse of some of the greatest players ever to play for City. Maybe I just really detest it when much of that appalling abuse is taking place when we are still celebrating one of the greatest triumphs in our history, and our most successful season ever. Maybe I just hate the fact that we are so easily picking on a player who has contributed so much to our recent victories.

And by the way, if Sheik Mansour said something slightly injudicious, would you all be calling for his head, and saying, Oh we'll get another Sheik whenever we want. Nope. I think you'd at least be waiting to hear the full story.

Cut Yaya some slack; he's earned it.

Random?

Yep. Random.

How's this for a list of the players we've serially abused over the past 2 years:

Hart, Kolarov, Demichelis, Richards, Nasri, Garcia, Dzeko, Jovetic.

From time to time we also enjoy abusing: Kompany, Barry, Milner, Toure, Lescott, Nastasic, Clichy.

Have I forgotten anyone?

Oh yeah, consider the abuse on this site aimed at Sergio, because some idiots thought he was more interested in playing in the world cup than playing for City.

Yep. Random. Vicious. Stupid.

How is it up there on your high moral ground? Using emotive words like "abused" and giving no context to those threads.
Don't get me wrong - I don't think you're a Rag (and I admire your understanding of participles).

 

[Ballymagash Blue]

Re: Yaya Toure

Random?

Yep. Random.

How's this for a list of the players we've serially abused over the past 2 years:

Hart, Kolarov, Demichelis, Richards, Nasri, Garcia, Dzeko, Jovetic.

From time to time we also enjoy abusing: Kompany, Barry, Milner, Toure, Lescott, Nastasic, Clichy.

Have I forgotten anyone?

Oh yeah, consider the abuse on this site aimed at Sergio, because some idiots thought he was more interested in playing in the world cup than playing for City.

Yep. Random. Vicious. Stupid.

You sure do hate City fans, that much is clear.

No. I know too many good City fans. I just hate the way we aim so much casual abuse at our players. Is that so difficult to understand?

 

[LoveCity]

Re: Yaya Toure

Amy Lewis ‏@SkySportsAmy 1m
Dimitry Seluk says Yaya Toure will want to stay at #mcfc if they offer him a coaching role

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[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Re: Yaya Toure

"Dimitry Seluk says Yaya Toure will want to stay at #mcfc if they offer him a coaching role"

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