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If Yaya gone, who replace him ?
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Yaya Toure - commits future to City (page 855)
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tolmie's hairdoo
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I would agree with most of your points aside from him not getting the same attention at Paris.
They have Ibra, and then they have nobody I would consider of world standing, in terms of celebrity.
Toure, as a French speaking African, he would be the biggest star and best player in France.
That piss poor league would prolong his career up to the age of 35.
If they want him badly enough, they don't need Toure to try and diminish his price.
I would be stunned if we were to sell for anything less than £35m.
yayas trusty right foot said:tolmie's hairdoo said:tonea2003 said:You may know a bit more mate, but i just don't get it, why?
it can't be just about money surely
i don't know what he can get from anyone else in our current position(apart from the weather)
and the methods employed are just plain bizzare
It's not about money at all, hard as that might be to believe.
He can earn great money wherever he goes.
It's seemingly about having his head turned and wanting another challenge late in his career.
Manchester can't offer the same as Paris or Barcelona, in terms of a lifestyle choice.
There's a reason why City set up in New York and not Nebraska.
I would not blame a French speaker for wanting to live and play in Paris, or return to a Barca, where the culture is familiar to him.
It's how he has gone about achieving that outcome which is the saddest thing.
Thanks for sharing Tolm..
IMO he has been very badly advised and destroyed his huge legacy..
He will look back on this in a couple of years and regret it..
He is a hero to the City fans and even the media love him, at PSG he will not get the same attention and will be just one of there many superstars..
A very sad end to a fantastic City career..
I would agree with most of your points aside from him not getting the same attention at Paris.
They have Ibra, and then they have nobody I would consider of world standing, in terms of celebrity.
Toure, as a French speaking African, he would be the biggest star and best player in France.
That piss poor league would prolong his career up to the age of 35.
If they want him badly enough, they don't need Toure to try and diminish his price.
I would be stunned if we were to sell for anything less than £35m.
The Fat el Hombre
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Re: Yaya Toure
Why not just say that then? (new challenge bit)
tolmie's hairdoo said:tonea2003 said:tolmie's hairdoo said:City just don't want a public slanging match, and are still very considerate of the feelings of the Toure family.
The club were able to brush of Seluk's stuff, but Yaya on the record may have moved the goalposts in terms of digesting any potential sale.
I would say a mixture of bemusement and hurt are the best words at present.
Always plenty of scope for revisionism (excuses) in the wake of Toure losing his brother, however.
Personally, being a natural cynic, I believe the timing of this was felt required, with Ivory Coast on the verge of being knocked out and Toure wanting to rachet it up before he gets a three-week rest.
You may know a bit more mate, but i just don't get it, why?
it can't be just about money surely
i don't know what he can get from anyone else in our current position(apart from the weather)
and the methods employed are just plain bizzare
It's not about money at all, hard as that might be to believe.
He can earn great money wherever he goes.
It's seemingly about having his head turned and wanting another challenge late in his career.
Manchester can't offer the same as Paris or Barcelona, in terms of a lifestyle choice.
There's a reason why City set up in New York and not Nebraska.
I would not blame a French speaker for wanting to live and play in Paris, or return to a Barca, where the culture is familiar to him.
It's how he has gone about achieving that outcome which is the saddest thing.
Why not just say that then? (new challenge bit)
tolmie's hairdoo
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Re: Yaya Toure
His agent cited the FFPR restrictions in the 'cake gate' interview that a sale of Yaya would also help City.
I doubt Paris, with similar restrictions, are better placed than us to win the Champions League.
They will be selling plenty of stars to balance the Luiz outlay.
Plain Speaking said:Is it coincidental Yaya's dissatisfaction came out just after we conceded FFP penalties/sanctions. Perhaps he thinks we can no longer compete to win the CL? He wants to cement his place in history as one of the world greats.tolmie's hairdoo said:It's not about money at all, hard as that might be to believe.
He can earn great money wherever he goes.
It's seemingly about having his head turned and wanting another challenge late in his career.
Manchester can't offer the same as Paris or Barcelona, in terms of a lifestyle choice.
There's a reason why City set up in New York and not Nebraska.
I would not blame a French speaker for wanting to live and play in Paris, or return to a Barca, where the culture is familiar to him.
It's how he has gone about achieving that outcome which is the saddest thing.
His agent cited the FFPR restrictions in the 'cake gate' interview that a sale of Yaya would also help City.
I doubt Paris, with similar restrictions, are better placed than us to win the Champions League.
They will be selling plenty of stars to balance the Luiz outlay.
Dribble
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Re: Yaya Toure
The next question would be 'Why sign a new contract 12 months ago then?'The Fat el Hombre said:tolmie's hairdoo said:tonea2003 said:You may know a bit more mate, but i just don't get it, why?
it can't be just about money surely
i don't know what he can get from anyone else in our current position(apart from the weather)
and the methods employed are just plain bizzare
It's not about money at all, hard as that might be to believe.
He can earn great money wherever he goes.
It's seemingly about having his head turned and wanting another challenge late in his career.
Manchester can't offer the same as Paris or Barcelona, in terms of a lifestyle choice.
There's a reason why City set up in New York and not Nebraska.
I would not blame a French speaker for wanting to live and play in Paris, or return to a Barca, where the culture is familiar to him.
It's how he has gone about achieving that outcome which is the saddest thing.
Why not just say that then? (new challenge bit)
tolmie's hairdoo
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Because he signed a new long-term contract last year, and City have made it pretty clear up to now that they won't entertain a sale.
Tevez handed in two transfer requests, both turned down.
Yaya is resorting to desperate tactics, as seen with his comments this week.
The Fat el Hombre said:tolmie's hairdoo said:tonea2003 said:You may know a bit more mate, but i just don't get it, why?
it can't be just about money surely
i don't know what he can get from anyone else in our current position(apart from the weather)
and the methods employed are just plain bizzare
It's not about money at all, hard as that might be to believe.
He can earn great money wherever he goes.
It's seemingly about having his head turned and wanting another challenge late in his career.
Manchester can't offer the same as Paris or Barcelona, in terms of a lifestyle choice.
There's a reason why City set up in New York and not Nebraska.
I would not blame a French speaker for wanting to live and play in Paris, or return to a Barca, where the culture is familiar to him.
It's how he has gone about achieving that outcome which is the saddest thing.
Why not just say that then? (new challenge bit)
Because he signed a new long-term contract last year, and City have made it pretty clear up to now that they won't entertain a sale.
Tevez handed in two transfer requests, both turned down.
Yaya is resorting to desperate tactics, as seen with his comments this week.
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Re: Yaya Toure
PSG also don't seem to be taking FFP as seriously as we do. They are also the principal team in a capital city with arguably more opportunity for increasing revenues streams?
PSG have a much less demanding league. Leaving them more opportunity to concentrate on the CL. Most City players have looked completely exhausted at the WC and that is without progressing to the latter stages of the CL.tolmie's hairdoo said:Plain Speaking said:Is it coincidental Yaya's dissatisfaction came out just after we conceded FFP penalties/sanctions. Perhaps he thinks we can no longer compete to win the CL? He wants to cement his place in history as one of the world greats.tolmie's hairdoo said:It's not about money at all, hard as that might be to believe.
He can earn great money wherever he goes.
It's seemingly about having his head turned and wanting another challenge late in his career.
Manchester can't offer the same as Paris or Barcelona, in terms of a lifestyle choice.
There's a reason why City set up in New York and not Nebraska.
I would not blame a French speaker for wanting to live and play in Paris, or return to a Barca, where the culture is familiar to him.
It's how he has gone about achieving that outcome which is the saddest thing.
His agent cited the FFPR restrictions in the 'cake gate' interview that a sale of Yaya would also help City.
I doubt Paris, with similar restrictions, are better placed than us to win the Champions League.
They will be selling plenty of stars to balance the Luiz outlay.
PSG also don't seem to be taking FFP as seriously as we do. They are also the principal team in a capital city with arguably more opportunity for increasing revenues streams?
tolmie's hairdoo
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I would say his agitation for a substantial rise at the time came into it.
It was before he had proved pivotal in a second Premier League title win and League Cup triumph.
His stock was not as high and possibly the likes of PSG were not calling then?
It also afforded him the protection of a massive pay off if City did decide to sell in the next four years.
Suarez signed a new deal last summer, but his agenda has always been to leave at some point.
Dribble said:The next question would be 'Why sign a new contract 12 months ago then?'The Fat el Hombre said:tolmie's hairdoo said:It's not about money at all, hard as that might be to believe.
He can earn great money wherever he goes.
It's seemingly about having his head turned and wanting another challenge late in his career.
Manchester can't offer the same as Paris or Barcelona, in terms of a lifestyle choice.
There's a reason why City set up in New York and not Nebraska.
I would not blame a French speaker for wanting to live and play in Paris, or return to a Barca, where the culture is familiar to him.
It's how he has gone about achieving that outcome which is the saddest thing.
Why not just say that then? (new challenge bit)
I would say his agitation for a substantial rise at the time came into it.
It was before he had proved pivotal in a second Premier League title win and League Cup triumph.
His stock was not as high and possibly the likes of PSG were not calling then?
It also afforded him the protection of a massive pay off if City did decide to sell in the next four years.
Suarez signed a new deal last summer, but his agenda has always been to leave at some point.
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PSG may not be taking FFP seriously now – but surely they'll have to... UEFA have to back up their actions surely – so after a £50mil outlay on Luiz they'll have to sell big to afford Yaya, who despite being 31 is one of the best midfielders in the world, with years left on his contract.
PSG mouthed off to us last year, warning us off Matuidi... so time to reciprocate – they want him, the starting fee is at least £40mil – even PSG can't take the piss that much surely!?!
As for Barca - I just don't think they'd buy him back – 1. cos it'd cost too much, and 2. because of his age.
Yaya needs to think about what he's doing (if in fact it is his doing) – he could very well Join PSG for a big pay day, only to see the club banned from European competition... and where is the 'challenge' that's turned his head? Play in an inferior domestic league (less challenging) with the same chances of CL progression as us (same challenge).
If he wants to leave, and he'd have just outright said he wants to move on - the I think we'd all have been gutted but said fair enough – now he's making (or his agent is making) himself look a right coont!
Plain Speaking said:PSG have a much less demanding league. Leaving them more opportunity to concentrate on the CL. Most City players have looked completely exhausted at the WC and that is without progressing to the latter stages of the CL.tolmie's hairdoo said:Plain Speaking said:Is it coincidental Yaya's dissatisfaction came out just after we conceded FFP penalties/sanctions. Perhaps he thinks we can no longer compete to win the CL? He wants to cement his place in history as one of the world greats.
His agent cited the FFPR restrictions in the 'cake gate' interview that a sale of Yaya would also help City.
I doubt Paris, with similar restrictions, are better placed than us to win the Champions League.
They will be selling plenty of stars to balance the Luiz outlay.
PSG also don't seem to be taking FFP as seriously as we do. They are also the principal team in a capital city with arguably more opportunity for increasing revenues streams?
PSG may not be taking FFP seriously now – but surely they'll have to... UEFA have to back up their actions surely – so after a £50mil outlay on Luiz they'll have to sell big to afford Yaya, who despite being 31 is one of the best midfielders in the world, with years left on his contract.
PSG mouthed off to us last year, warning us off Matuidi... so time to reciprocate – they want him, the starting fee is at least £40mil – even PSG can't take the piss that much surely!?!
As for Barca - I just don't think they'd buy him back – 1. cos it'd cost too much, and 2. because of his age.
Yaya needs to think about what he's doing (if in fact it is his doing) – he could very well Join PSG for a big pay day, only to see the club banned from European competition... and where is the 'challenge' that's turned his head? Play in an inferior domestic league (less challenging) with the same chances of CL progression as us (same challenge).
If he wants to leave, and he'd have just outright said he wants to move on - the I think we'd all have been gutted but said fair enough – now he's making (or his agent is making) himself look a right coont!
tolmie's hairdoo
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All true, but the reality is more the same.
Whether it be City or Paris, they are both on the clock to win it in the next couple years, because of Yaya's age.
Paris, less domestic demands, or not, won't win Champions League anytime soon.
Plain Speaking said:PSG have a much less demanding league. Leaving them more opportunity to concentrate on the CL. Most City players have looked completely exhausted at the WC and that is without progressing to the latter stages of the CL.tolmie's hairdoo said:Plain Speaking said:Is it coincidental Yaya's dissatisfaction came out just after we conceded FFP penalties/sanctions. Perhaps he thinks we can no longer compete to win the CL? He wants to cement his place in history as one of the world greats.
His agent cited the FFPR restrictions in the 'cake gate' interview that a sale of Yaya would also help City.
I doubt Paris, with similar restrictions, are better placed than us to win the Champions League.
They will be selling plenty of stars to balance the Luiz outlay.
PSG also don't seem to be taking FFP as seriously as we do. They are also the principal team in a capital city with arguably more opportunity for increasing revenues streams?
All true, but the reality is more the same.
Whether it be City or Paris, they are both on the clock to win it in the next couple years, because of Yaya's age.
Paris, less domestic demands, or not, won't win Champions League anytime soon.
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Negredo and Yaya sold, both want out and seems like the right time to cash in
Kroos and Sanchez in would be my personal preference
Toure shouldn't be sold until we have secured a replacement of the same level though, and there are few of those about and the clock is ticking
Negredo and Yaya sold, both want out and seems like the right time to cash in
Kroos and Sanchez in would be my personal preference
Toure shouldn't be sold until we have secured a replacement of the same level though, and there are few of those about and the clock is ticking
Danamy
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Forget contracts, they don't mean fuck all
The Luke Shaw scenario is an example of this, Southampton signed him up on a five year contract as soon as he turned 18 to protect an asset, they knew he was looking for a move this summer with Chelsea being his likely destination before the Rags came in to eclipse the offer, it's looking likely that Southampton are going to make in the region of 28 million for the sake of a signature with also getting one more season out of him.
For those who wear foil hats for a living they may even say Yaya knew he was going this summer and signed to enhance his transfer fee, afterall PSG were in for him last summer before he signed his extension?
Dribble said:The next question would be 'Why sign a new contract 12 months ago then?'The Fat el Hombre said:tolmie's hairdoo said:It's not about money at all, hard as that might be to believe.
He can earn great money wherever he goes.
It's seemingly about having his head turned and wanting another challenge late in his career.
Manchester can't offer the same as Paris or Barcelona, in terms of a lifestyle choice.
There's a reason why City set up in New York and not Nebraska.
I would not blame a French speaker for wanting to live and play in Paris, or return to a Barca, where the culture is familiar to him.
It's how he has gone about achieving that outcome which is the saddest thing.
Why not just say that then? (new challenge bit)
Forget contracts, they don't mean fuck all
The Luke Shaw scenario is an example of this, Southampton signed him up on a five year contract as soon as he turned 18 to protect an asset, they knew he was looking for a move this summer with Chelsea being his likely destination before the Rags came in to eclipse the offer, it's looking likely that Southampton are going to make in the region of 28 million for the sake of a signature with also getting one more season out of him.
For those who wear foil hats for a living they may even say Yaya knew he was going this summer and signed to enhance his transfer fee, afterall PSG were in for him last summer before he signed his extension?
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we are all talking in varying degrees of emotion,
but ultimately he is a current MCFC asset and for the men in charge i.e tixii etc
its all about timiing
will yaya play like he did last season again, was that his peak?
can we get one more season out of him or cash in now and replace with someone of younger equal ability
the king is dead, long live the king always
Danamy said:Dribble said:The next question would be 'Why sign a new contract 12 months ago then?'The Fat el Hombre said:Why not just say that then? (new challenge bit)
Forget contracts, they don't mean fuck all
The Luke Shaw scenario is an example of this, Southampton signed him up on a five year contract as soon as he turned 18 to protect an asset, they knew he was looking for a move this summer with Chelsea being his likely destination before the Rags came in to eclipse the offer, it's looking likely that Southampton are going to make in the region of 28 million for the sake of a signature with also getting one more season out of him.
For those who wear foil hats for a living they may even say Yaya knew he was going this summer and signed to enhance his transfer fee, afterall PSG were in for him last summer before he signed his extension?
we are all talking in varying degrees of emotion,
but ultimately he is a current MCFC asset and for the men in charge i.e tixii etc
its all about timiing
will yaya play like he did last season again, was that his peak?
can we get one more season out of him or cash in now and replace with someone of younger equal ability
the king is dead, long live the king always
Plain Speaking
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Is the treatment so much better there than in Manchester where his brother was receiving the best cancer treatment?
I wonder how our owners feel about Yaya being "tapped up" by PSG's owners, as appears to be the case?
Yaya had extensive injury treatment in Qatar after visiting our owners before the WC.tonea2003 said:Danamy said:Dribble said:The next question would be 'Why sign a new contract 12 months ago then?'
Forget contracts, they don't mean fuck all
The Luke Shaw scenario is an example of this, Southampton signed him up on a five year contract as soon as he turned 18 to protect an asset, they knew he was looking for a move this summer with Chelsea being his likely destination before the Rags came in to eclipse the offer, it's looking likely that Southampton are going to make in the region of 28 million for the sake of a signature with also getting one more season out of him.
For those who wear foil hats for a living they may even say Yaya knew he was going this summer and signed to enhance his transfer fee, afterall PSG were in for him last summer before he signed his extension?
we are all talking in varying degrees of emotion,
but ultimately he is a current MCFC asset and for the men in charge i.e tixii etc
its all about timiing
will yaya play like he did last season again, was that his peak?
can we get one more season out of him or cash in now and replace with someone of younger equal ability
the king is dead, long live the king always
Is the treatment so much better there than in Manchester where his brother was receiving the best cancer treatment?
I wonder how our owners feel about Yaya being "tapped up" by PSG's owners, as appears to be the case?
JoeMercer'sWay
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To me it's simple, PL cartel encourage PSG to unsettle Yaya and try to snap him up and hope that we can't sign a good enough replacement because of our FFPR restrictions, it's their last hope that we have a really bad season and drop out of CL like the rags so that they can try and close the trap door with the BT money coming in the following year, it won't happen though, we'll outsmart them as always.
To me it's simple, PL cartel encourage PSG to unsettle Yaya and try to snap him up and hope that we can't sign a good enough replacement because of our FFPR restrictions, it's their last hope that we have a really bad season and drop out of CL like the rags so that they can try and close the trap door with the BT money coming in the following year, it won't happen though, we'll outsmart them as always.
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but anymore PSG spend busts their bank FFPR wise, substantial outgoings would have to take place for the above to ring true
JoeMercer'sWay said:To me it's simple, PL cartel encourage PSG to unsettle Yaya and try to snap him up and hope that we can't sign a good enough replacement because of our FFPR restrictions, it's their last hope that we have a really bad season and drop out of CL like the rags so that they can try and close the trap door with the BT money coming in the following year, it won't happen though, we'll outsmart them as always.
but anymore PSG spend busts their bank FFPR wise, substantial outgoings would have to take place for the above to ring true
JoeMercer'sWay
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UEFA will brush over it because nobody REALLY cares that PSG are there, as they don't take a bite out of their rivals domestic revenues.
tonea2003 said:JoeMercer'sWay said:To me it's simple, PL cartel encourage PSG to unsettle Yaya and try to snap him up and hope that we can't sign a good enough replacement because of our FFPR restrictions, it's their last hope that we have a really bad season and drop out of CL like the rags so that they can try and close the trap door with the BT money coming in the following year, it won't happen though, we'll outsmart them as always.
but anymore PSG spend busts their bank FFPR wise, substantial outgoings would have to take place for the above to ring true
UEFA will brush over it because nobody REALLY cares that PSG are there, as they don't take a bite out of their rivals domestic revenues.
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but they haven't as the current sanction shows
JoeMercer'sWay said:tonea2003 said:JoeMercer'sWay said:To me it's simple, PL cartel encourage PSG to unsettle Yaya and try to snap him up and hope that we can't sign a good enough replacement because of our FFPR restrictions, it's their last hope that we have a really bad season and drop out of CL like the rags so that they can try and close the trap door with the BT money coming in the following year, it won't happen though, we'll outsmart them as always.
but anymore PSG spend busts their bank FFPR wise, substantial outgoings would have to take place for the above to ring true
UEFA will brush over it because nobody REALLY cares that PSG are there, as they don't take a bite out of their rivals domestic revenues.
but they haven't as the current sanction shows
Re: Yaya Toure
if he goes it just gives us more money to play with,so less restriction financially, yaya going will more about replacing ability
NoahCity said:So disappointing that after such a great season things are still choppy with restrictions and now one of our top players seemingly leaving.
if he goes it just gives us more money to play with,so less restriction financially, yaya going will more about replacing ability
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