You are the Ref..

I think we need to wait until Dermot gives us his verdict on Monday. Let me know as I don't watch it due to there being a good chance of me putting my TV through if I do.
 
Don't forget to be onside you have to have two opponents level or in front of you, not just one.

Law 11
player is in an offside position if:
  • any part of the head, body or feet is in the opponents’ half (excluding the halfway line) and
  • any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent
 
Plsyer A plays a ball to player B who is miles offside. Players B even shepherd's the ball so that player C can smash the ball past Ederson.

The goal is given.

I can't get my head how Player B wasn't flagged offside.

Am I missing something??

Ah but player B wasn't “interfering in play”, you see… I mean, he was merely shepherding the ball, and taking all the keeper and defence's attention onto him, but he wasn't “interfering in play”.

Absolute head-fucker, that one.
Actually, hold that. It was Manchester United. All is clear.
 
Well, the penalty taker A will most likely be ahead of Player B as he shoots, the goalkeeper only parries the ball so A is offside unless , as there are no defenders in the area, Player B has managed to get ahead of Player A before taking his shot (and player B would need to have been outside the penalty area and behind the ball when the penalty was taken). So it highly likely that the penalty taker, A, would be offside.
 
Well, the penalty taker A will most likely be ahead of Player B as he shoots, the goalkeeper only parries the ball so A is offside unless , as there are no defenders in the area, Player B has managed to get ahead of Player A before taking his shot (and player B would need to have been outside the penalty area and behind the ball when the penalty was taken). So it highly likely that the penalty taker, A, would be offside.
I have bold/italics the issues, albeit reasonable thoughts.

The definitive answer is, unfortunately a question given the circumstances… “where was A when B (who was clearly ONSIDE) played the ball?”

IF A was:

1) Behind the ball when played by B, or
2) Had a second defender ahead of her when the ball was played by B

then she is ONSIDE and the goal should count.
 
I have bold/italics the issues, albeit reasonable thoughts.

The definitive answer is, unfortunately a question given the circumstances… “where was A when B (who was clearly ONSIDE) played the ball?”

IF A was:

1) Behind the ball when played by B, or
2) Had a second defender ahead of her when the ball was played by B

then she is ONSIDE and the goal should count.
Without an image, this is totally hypothetical.

Can I add that there were 27 beach balls on the pitch and one of the defenders had Mr Tickles’ legs.
 
Without an image, this is totally hypothetical.

Can I add that there were 27 beach balls on the pitch and one of the defenders had Mr Tickles’ legs.
Oooo, now you’ve thrown a wrench in the works!!

:-)

I thought I had covered the fact that we don’t have a picture in my choices, which cover the ways they can be on or offside.

Of course, if Howard the Red or a team in red is involved, ignore all previous.
 
Oooo, now you’ve thrown a wrench in the works!!

:-)

I thought I had covered the fact that we don’t have a picture in my choices, which cover the ways they can be on or offside.

Of course, if Howard the Red or a team in red is involved, ignore all previous.
AVAR: When did the defender say “Go, go gadget legs?”

VAR: No handball by Salah, goal stands.

 
I have bold/italics the issues, albeit reasonable thoughts.

The definitive answer is, unfortunately a question given the circumstances… “where was A when B (who was clearly ONSIDE) played the ball?”

IF A was:

1) Behind the ball when played by B, or
2) Had a second defender ahead of her when the ball was played by B

then she is ONSIDE and the goal should count.
What I am not sure about is whether a player from either of the sides could be positioned ahead of the penalty taker but outside the penalty area when the penalty was taken. (Eg standing by the corner flag). If such a player were player B then he/she would be offside when the ball came back off the post, but if such a player were a defender then both A and B could be onside.
 
What I am not sure about is whether a player from either of the sides could be positioned ahead of the penalty taker but outside the penalty area when the penalty was taken. (Eg standing by the corner flag). If such a player were player B then he/she would be offside when the ball came back off the post, but if such a player were a defender then both A and B could be onside.
A player CAN, but would be foolish to do so because

A) if they were on the attacking team, they’d either be offside immediately if the ball was saved (old rules) or if they tried to play it (new rules).

B) Playing everyone onside if they were from the defending team.
 
We could perhaps enter the realm of quantum mathematics where hypothetical players have no fixed positions but are represented by a probability cloud and so compute the probability of A and B being on or offside at any particular moment. About as understandable as the use of VAR.
 
A player CAN, but would be foolish to do so because

A) if they were on the attacking team, they’d either be offside immediately if the ball was saved (old rules) or if they tried to play it (new rules).

B) Playing everyone onside if they were from the defending team.
No, The laws specifically state that all players other than the taker and the goalkeeper must be:

* At least 10 yards from the penalty mark
* BEHIND THE PENALTY MARK
* Inside the field of play
* Outside the penalty area
 
No, The laws specifically state that all players other than the taker and the goalkeeper must be:

* At least 10 yards from the penalty mark
* BEHIND THE PENALTY MARK
* Inside the field of play
* Outside the penalty area
I stand corrected on my response to the “corner flag” comment.
 
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