Youtube Sucks

Bill Walker said:
I also think people like Rick Beato who I watch has more than a million subscribers and me wanting to watch his content without adds doesn't make him poor financially.
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If everyone watched his videos on brave without ads or premium then it would, yeah.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Anyone else notice the massive recent increase in ads when viewing Youtube? It's fucking awful. Worse than watching commercial TV.

It's recently to the point that a 1 hour Youtube viewing session mandates about 25 minutes of unskippable commercial content (or maybe more).

With any luck whatsoever another platform will emerge to offer Youtube competition. Fucking waste of my time to watch commercials for 25%+ for the content I'm interested in.
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Yer get the same shit on Radio - every fuckin' station is trying to screw a fiver out of yer in order for some no mark to phone yer up on a Friday telling yer that yer've won £450k. Fuck off, yer bastards, and just play the music!
 
A question for the YouTube creators on here. How do the adverts work - do you get to decide how many adverts, how long they are, and where they are or does it just do it automatically?

The adverts do seem to have ramped up over the last year, presumably Google monetising it more. A particular annoyance as a user is sitting through a sponsored section only for a 50+ second advert to pop up immediately afterwards, which is one of the things that start to make you look for work arounds. Also, the adverts have increased in length and often feel disproportionate to the length of the video. Appreciate you'd get paid less, but a sub 15 second video never caused me to try and skip it. The 50 seconds ones are long enough to be annoying but too short to be able to make a brew.

I also find that adverts come in mid-sentence, so doesn't feel like you are able to position them, as would happen with a proper TV programme. A more minor frustration, but affects the user experience and not sure what causes it
 
RobMCFC said:
Rob on Holiday.

We do lots of European city breaks, transport videos for cities, Disneyland Paris, UK lodge breaks. Anything related to holidays, we film it.

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Rob on Holiday

Welcome to Rob on Holiday, your ultimate destination for travel inspiration and tips! Are you dreaming of your next trip away? Well, look no further! Join us as we explore some of Europe's best city break destinations, showing you all the hidden gems, and must-see attractions. ✨ Experience...
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Wonder if WalkwithTim is stuck in the UAE reviewing wealthy hotels, YouTube is great for travel vids and walk-arounds.

I like watching Wandering Turnip, turns up to proper shitholes in the UK for a mooch about.
 
Blue Since 76 said:
A question for the YouTube creators on here. How do the adverts work - do you get to decide how many adverts, how long they are, and where they are or does it just do it automatically?

The adverts do seem to have ramped up over the last year, presumably Google monetising it more. A particular annoyance as a user is sitting through a sponsored section only for a 50+ second advert to pop up immediately afterwards, which is one of the things that start to make you look for work arounds. Also, the adverts have increased in length and often feel disproportionate to the length of the video. Appreciate you'd get paid less, but a sub 15 second video never caused me to try and skip it. The 50 seconds ones are long enough to be annoying but too short to be able to make a brew.

I also find that adverts come in mid-sentence, so doesn't feel like you are able to position them, as would happen with a proper TV programme. A more minor frustration, but affects the user experience and not sure what causes it
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I'm going to say "we" here, but credit where credit's due: my eldest daughter does all the hard work on our video editing and uploading - I'm just the ugly mug who fronts them :)

Anyway, to your questions:-
  • Yes, we get to decide how many adverts are shown. We have one before the video (which is standard) and one part-way through for a 10-minute video. For longer videos there will be two adverts mid-video.
  • You can't decide how long the adverts are, and I agree that the 50-second ads are a bit of an annoyance.
  • As for the adverts mid-sentence, I was going to say that we make sure ours come just after a certain section of the video but my daughter has just confirmed that she selects "auto" which seems to do a pretty good job on our videos, but i must admit here has been the odd cut to advert that felt a little off.
As a general comment, I'm glad to see that some people see things from the content creator's perspective. Whilst we have the odd video that makes hundreds of pounds, most are small fry. Yet I cannot tell you how much effort my daughter puts into each and every one of them. I can't abide videos where somebody reviewing a hotel shows you the inside of a wardrobe for 10 minutes, but I think the quality of the editing on our videos speaks for itself: we provide a lot of useful info in a relatively quick time with on-screen graphics and maps as and when necessary. All of this takes ages to put together so it's nice when we get comments on the channel praising our helpfulness, and it's fantastic when we get that special video that brings in some decent money.
 
RobMCFC said:
I'm going to say "we" here, but credit where credit's due: my eldest daughter does all the hard work on our video editing and uploading - I'm just the ugly mug who fronts them :)

Anyway, to your questions:-
  • Yes, we get to decide how many adverts are shown. We have one before the video (which is standard) and one part-way through for a 10-minute video. For longer videos there will be two adverts mid-video.
  • You can't decide how long the adverts are, and I agree that the 50-second ads are a bit of an annoyance.
  • As for the adverts mid-sentence, I was going to say that we make sure ours come just after a certain section of the video but my daughter has just confirmed that she selects "auto" which seems to do a pretty good job on our videos, but i must admit here has been the odd cut to advert that felt a little off.
As a general comment, I'm glad to see that some people see things from the content creator's perspective. Whilst we have the odd video that makes hundreds of pounds, most are small fry. Yet I cannot tell you how much effort my daughter puts into each and every one of them. I can't abide videos where somebody reviewing a hotel shows you the inside of a wardrobe for 10 minutes, but I think the quality of the editing on our videos speaks for itself: we provide a lot of useful info in a relatively quick time with on-screen graphics and maps as and when necessary. All of this takes ages to put together so it's nice when we get comments on the channel praising our helpfulness, and it's fantastic when we get that special video that brings in some decent money.
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Thank you for this new perspective for me. Much appreciated.
 
RobMCFC said:
I'm going to say "we" here, but credit where credit's due: my eldest daughter does all the hard work on our video editing and uploading - I'm just the ugly mug who fronts them :)

Anyway, to your questions:-
  • Yes, we get to decide how many adverts are shown. We have one before the video (which is standard) and one part-way through for a 10-minute video. For longer videos there will be two adverts mid-video.
  • You can't decide how long the adverts are, and I agree that the 50-second ads are a bit of an annoyance.
  • As for the adverts mid-sentence, I was going to say that we make sure ours come just after a certain section of the video but my daughter has just confirmed that she selects "auto" which seems to do a pretty good job on our videos, but i must admit here has been the odd cut to advert that felt a little off.
As a general comment, I'm glad to see that some people see things from the content creator's perspective. Whilst we have the odd video that makes hundreds of pounds, most are small fry. Yet I cannot tell you how much effort my daughter puts into each and every one of them. I can't abide videos where somebody reviewing a hotel shows you the inside of a wardrobe for 10 minutes, but I think the quality of the editing on our videos speaks for itself: we provide a lot of useful info in a relatively quick time with on-screen graphics and maps as and when necessary. All of this takes ages to put together so it's nice when we get comments on the channel praising our helpfulness, and it's fantastic when we get that special video that brings in some decent money.
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Yeah I hit auto on all of mine for ad placement. Most of my videos are 7-12 minutes, the longest ads are 30 seconds mid video and one beforehand.

Videos under 8 mins only get one ad I believe. The second ad doubles the revenue.

For anyone wondering, typical revenue on a video is around £3-6 per thousand views where ads are seen (very much dependent on the demographic of the audience - US/UK viewers are worth 10x that of Indian subcontinent etc).

I receive around 200k views a month from just under 18k subscribers but spend about 15-20 hours a week making videos. I’d have stopped long ago if it wasn’t for corporate sponsors (though I don’t have to plug them, just use their gear - which isn’t the end of the world), but my main revenue from it is a business which is very much related to the content (where YT acts as a sales/marketing funnel) and brings in 5-6x the revenue I receive from being a YT Partner. Unfortunately it adds another 10-15 hours a week of work but it’s mine so I enjoy it.
 
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If people want to see how little those “fucking annoying grumble grumble” ads actually pay:

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This is why “creators’ (fucking wank term) accept money from sponsors to spend 2 minutes plugging their gear. YouTube Ads, by itself, pays very little.
 
SWP's back said:
Yeah I hit auto on all of mine for ad placement. Most of my videos are 7-12 minutes, the longest ads are 30 seconds mid video and one beforehand.

Videos under 8 mins only get one ad I believe. The second ad doubles the revenue.

For anyone wondering, typical revenue on a video is around £3-6 per thousand views where ads are seen (very much dependent on the demographic of the audience - US/UK viewers are worth 10x that of Indian subcontinent etc).

I receive around 200k views a month from just under 18k subscribers but spend about 15-20 hours a week making videos. I’d have stopped long ago if it wasn’t for corporate sponsors (though I don’t have to plug them, just use their gear - which isn’t the end of the world), but my main revenue from it is a business which is very much related to the content (where YT acts as a sales/marketing funnel) and brings in 5-6x the revenue I receive from being a YT Partner. Unfortunately it adds another 10-15 hours a week of work but it’s mine so I enjoy it.
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What's your channel?

Bigger than ours anyway - we've got 4,700 subscribers and get between 20 and 60K views per month. For us it's seasonal with it being holiday videos. Very slow in the run-up the Christmas and then it takes off in the new year.

The revenue is just over £6 per thousand views.

There's also a spike every weekend but I suspect that's fairly common for many channels. And yes, I forgot to mention, it's not all about the money. You've got to love going out of you way to film certain aspects for the video and then the hours in post-production. It's a good hobby that generates a bit of cash on the side.
 
RobMCFC said:
I'm going to say "we" here, but credit where credit's due: my eldest daughter does all the hard work on our video editing and uploading - I'm just the ugly mug who fronts them :)

Anyway, to your questions:-
  • Yes, we get to decide how many adverts are shown. We have one before the video (which is standard) and one part-way through for a 10-minute video. For longer videos there will be two adverts mid-video.
  • You can't decide how long the adverts are, and I agree that the 50-second ads are a bit of an annoyance.
  • As for the adverts mid-sentence, I was going to say that we make sure ours come just after a certain section of the video but my daughter has just confirmed that she selects "auto" which seems to do a pretty good job on our videos, but i must admit here has been the odd cut to advert that felt a little off.
As a general comment, I'm glad to see that some people see things from the content creator's perspective. Whilst we have the odd video that makes hundreds of pounds, most are small fry. Yet I cannot tell you how much effort my daughter puts into each and every one of them. I can't abide videos where somebody reviewing a hotel shows you the inside of a wardrobe for 10 minutes, but I think the quality of the editing on our videos speaks for itself: we provide a lot of useful info in a relatively quick time with on-screen graphics and maps as and when necessary. All of this takes ages to put together so it's nice when we get comments on the channel praising our helpfulness, and it's fantastic when we get that special video that brings in some decent money.
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Thanks for the insight. Have watched a few of your videos ahead of Málaga / Granada / Cordoba later this year and they're enjoyable and informative.

Do likes/any sort of comment help with the algorithm? Always get the 'don't forget to like and subscribe' comment on every video, but does it make a difference? I've got some subscriptions and will see their uploads, and can see how the algorithm works once you search for something and then start watching it, but never sure how it chooses which videos on a subject to put in the recommended area
 
SWP's back said:
If people want to see how little those “fucking annoying grumble grumble” ads actually pay:

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This is why “creators’ (fucking wank term) accept money from sponsors to spend 2 minutes plugging their gear. YouTube Ads, by itself, pays very little.
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You may not know but do you see a breakdown in income from YT to see which income comes from veiwers seeing the ads and those paying the subscription to go ad free?
 
Blue Since 76 said:
Thanks for the insight. Have watched a few of your videos ahead of Málaga / Granada / Cordoba later this year and they're enjoyable and informative.

Do likes/any sort of comment help with the algorithm? Always get the 'don't forget to like and subscribe' comment on every video, but does it make a difference? I've got some subscriptions and will see their uploads, and can see how the algorithm works once you search for something and then start watching it, but never sure how it chooses which videos on a subject to put in the recommended area
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Thanks, glad you are getting something out of the videos.

I think everything - likes and comments - contribute to the algorithm recommending one channel's videos over another.

I think the main value of subscribers is in the very important sub-1000 subscribers days - no matter how good your videos or how many likes and comments you get, you cannot monetise (i.e. make money) from your videos unless yo u have:-
  • 1000 subscribers
  • 4,000 viewing hours per year (I think)
Thankfully, we are well past both of those minimums now. But I'm sure subscriber count also feeds into the algorithm.
 
MouldensChippy said:
The simple answer to this is to get yourself a mini PC, or connect your PC to the TV and watch through the Brave (or Firefox) browser to avoid adverts.

Maybe even a cheap android box.
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I watch YT through an Nvidia Shield box. YOu do still get ads. I pay, I think, £7 per month to stop adds on videos and get the occasional one on music, but very rarely.
 
hampshireblue said:
I watch YT through an Nvidia Shield box. YOu do still get ads. I pay, I think, £7 per month to stop adds on videos and get the occasional one on music, but very rarely.
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That's because you're using the app. A browser can block them but not as nice to use.

How are you paying £7pm though - there's a lite version for £7.99 but you still get music adds and can't download songs, otherwise it's £12.99. I'd probably pay £7 for how much I use it but £13 is pushing it
 
RobMCFC said:
What's your channel?

Bigger than ours anyway - we've got 4,700 subscribers and get between 20 and 60K views per month. For us it's seasonal with it being holiday videos. Very slow in the run-up the Christmas and then it takes off in the new year.

The revenue is just over £6 per thousand views.

There's also a spike every weekend but I suspect that's fairly common for many channels. And yes, I forgot to mention, it's not all about the money. You've got to love going out of you way to film certain aspects for the video and then the hours in post-production. It's a good hobby that generates a bit of cash on the side.
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Mine’s incredibly niche. I do track guides and ‘how to’ guides for a sim racing game but never planned on it gaining the momentum it got.
 
Blue Since 76 said:
Do likes/any sort of comment help with the algorithm? Always get the 'don't forget to like and subscribe' comment on every video, but does it make a difference?
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They do yeah but the man thing is the percentage of the video that’s viewed. It’s why I don’t really share my videos with anyone that’s just going to subscribe “to be helpful” or ask people to watch the first ten seconds and give it a like.

I don’t bother saying “like and subscribe” any more either. People will do so if they find the content to be worthwhile and I got bored of saying it.
 
@RobMCFC I'm guessing that the £££ per 1,000 views reduces when the views go up?
Say, if you get 1,000,000 views is there a sliding scale or is it a straight £6 per 1,000?
A million would give you £6,000?
Assuming minimum subscriptions etc.
 
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