Zimbabwe election today

SWP's back said:
mat said:
bluemoon32 said:
Nah, Mugabe is an evil bastard and that has nothing to do with race

The stealing and murdering of white of white farmers wasn't racial?
That does but waterloo blue wa trying to claim those against Mugabee are against him because he is black (that is how I read it anyway)
Mugabe is a murdering bastard,who has terrorised his own people.
Smith declared independence unlawfully in 1965,as the British wanted to hand over the nation to the black majority.
The fact that Zimbabwe(Rhodesia),was the bread basket of Africa is uncontrovertable,but how was this accomplished?.
It was built on the back of black labour for a small minority of white landowners,as in all society's built upon a settlers land grab is intrinsicly unfair.No one in their right mind could condone the slaughter of the white farmers by "war veterans",but by handling the handover of power better it could have been averted,what I meant by my klansmen quip is that like many casual rascists they would be on here saying that the majority of the population would be better off under Smith's colonial rule.
 
metalblue said:
Bucharest Blue said:
Exactly the same scenario here in Cambodia this week.

Same PM for last 25 years, announced victory few hours polls had closed despite it being obvious the new opposition had clearly won a huge majority around the Country. Demanding recounts and protests threatened this week.

approx. 1.5million voters who turned up to vote (in opposition areas) were told their names werent on the list, video evidence of the current regime voters taking 3 ballots to post and hundreds of thousands of dead relatives apparently have risen and voted at the weekend (wonder who for?!)

Pretty tense here in Phnom Penh at the moment... but its 5.04pm and its time for a beer :)

Stay safe blue...governments have got to realise that in today's world groups can organise themselves and these sort of corrupt antics will not be tolerated.
This is true, underestimate the power of that new fangled inter webby thingy at your peril
 
waterloo blue said:
SWP's back said:
mat said:
The stealing and murdering of white of white farmers wasn't racial?
That does but waterloo blue wa trying to claim those against Mugabee are against him because he is black (that is how I read it anyway)
Mugabe is a murdering bastard,who has terrorised his own people.
Smith declared independence unlawfully in 1965,as the British wanted to hand over the nation to the black majority.
The fact that Zimbabwe(Rhodesia),was the bread basket of Africa is uncontrovertable,but how was this accomplished?.
It was built on the back of black labour for a small minority of white landowners,as in all society's built upon a settlers land grab is intrinsicly unfair.No one in their right mind could condone the slaughter of the white farmers by "war veterans",but by handling the handover of power better it could have been averted,what I meant by my klansmen quip is that like many casual rascists they would be on here saying that the majority of the population would be better off under Smith's colonial rule.
Were the majority better off before though? I ask in all seriousness as it is not something I am entirely clued up on?
 
blue underpants said:
metalblue said:
Bucharest Blue said:
Exactly the same scenario here in Cambodia this week.

Same PM for last 25 years, announced victory few hours polls had closed despite it being obvious the new opposition had clearly won a huge majority around the Country. Demanding recounts and protests threatened this week.

approx. 1.5million voters who turned up to vote (in opposition areas) were told their names werent on the list, video evidence of the current regime voters taking 3 ballots to post and hundreds of thousands of dead relatives apparently have risen and voted at the weekend (wonder who for?!)

Pretty tense here in Phnom Penh at the moment... but its 5.04pm and its time for a beer :)

Stay safe blue...governments have got to realise that in today's world groups can organise themselves and these sort of corrupt antics will not be tolerated.
This is true, underestimate the power of that new fangled inter webby thingy at your peril

Only got to look at beppe Grillo in Italy for proof. Maybe political activism has suddenly gained real power, it's yet to hit these shores but folk seem pretty fed up with the current system which is ideologically only seperated by the colour of the tie...personally I'm happy in our stable little island and just being able to moan about it from time to time in the cellar. Not everyone on planet earth is that lucky.
 
I went to Salisbury, as it was then called in the late 60's, it was an amazing place, and everyone, black and white seemed happy and prosperous to me, but I was only there a couple of days.
It can't have been though, as it would be racist to think like that.
 
SWP's back said:
waterloo blue said:
SWP's back said:
That does but waterloo blue wa trying to claim those against Mugabee are against him because he is black (that is how I read it anyway)
Mugabe is a murdering bastard,who has terrorised his own people.
Smith declared independence unlawfully in 1965,as the British wanted to hand over the nation to the black majority.
The fact that Zimbabwe(Rhodesia),was the bread basket of Africa is uncontrovertable,but how was this accomplished?.
It was built on the back of black labour for a small minority of white landowners,as in all society's built upon a settlers land grab is intrinsicly unfair.No one in their right mind could condone the slaughter of the white farmers by "war veterans",but by handling the handover of power better it could have been averted,what I meant by my klansmen quip is that like many casual rascists they would be on here saying that the majority of the population would be better off under Smith's colonial rule.
Were the majority better off before though? I ask in all seriousness as it is not something I am entirely clued up on?

I wouldn't call such a view casual racism either. Stories I've read are they were better off under the white ruling elite than they are currently under Mugabe's but I'm sure didactic will be along in a bit to tell me that's just white man propoganda and if I haven't been told it first hand by the Zulu's I don't have a clue.
 
SWP's back said:
waterloo blue said:
SWP's back said:
That does but waterloo blue wa trying to claim those against Mugabee are against him because he is black (that is how I read it anyway)
Mugabe is a murdering bastard,who has terrorised his own people.
Smith declared independence unlawfully in 1965,as the British wanted to hand over the nation to the black majority.
The fact that Zimbabwe(Rhodesia),was the bread basket of Africa is uncontrovertable,but how was this accomplished?.
It was built on the back of black labour for a small minority of white landowners,as in all society's built upon a settlers land grab is intrinsicly unfair.No one in their right mind could condone the slaughter of the white farmers by "war veterans",but by handling the handover of power better it could have been averted,what I meant by my klansmen quip is that like many casual rascists they would be on here saying that the majority of the population would be better off under Smith's colonial rule.
Were the majority better off before though? I ask in all seriousness as it is not something I am entirely clued up on?
Considering that a quarter of Zimbabweans have fled the country and life expectancy went down from around 60 to under 40 during Mugabe's rule (although its back up to around 50 now), I would say that people were clearly better off before.

That's not to say white minority rule is a good thing but when it is replaced by a tyrannical murderous dictator, things don't tend to improve.
 
west didsblue said:
SWP's back said:
waterloo blue said:
Mugabe is a murdering bastard,who has terrorised his own people.
Smith declared independence unlawfully in 1965,as the British wanted to hand over the nation to the black majority.
The fact that Zimbabwe(Rhodesia),was the bread basket of Africa is uncontrovertable,but how was this accomplished?.
It was built on the back of black labour for a small minority of white landowners,as in all society's built upon a settlers land grab is intrinsicly unfair.No one in their right mind could condone the slaughter of the white farmers by "war veterans",but by handling the handover of power better it could have been averted,what I meant by my klansmen quip is that like many casual rascists they would be on here saying that the majority of the population would be better off under Smith's colonial rule.
Were the majority better off before though? I ask in all seriousness as it is not something I am entirely clued up on?
Considering that a quarter of Zimbabweans have fled the country and life expectancy went down from around 60 to under 40 during Mugabe's rule (although its back up to around 50 now), I would say that people were clearly better off before.

That's not to say white minority rule is a good thing but when it is replaced by a tyrannical murderous dictator, things don't tend to improve.
Racist
 
I think the best thing that can happen is Mugabe dies a terrible, horrendous, painful aids ridden death which includes controversial bum rape techniques and a whisk set to obliterate mode
 

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