Shooting outside the House of Commons

[SWP's back]

I'm thinking SWP may be a belligerent person who wears glasses.

I'm truculent but have 20/20 vision.

 

[Mike N]

I'm truculent but have 20/20 vision.

Fair enough!

 

[Xiphos]

Yes, you do need to provide sources.

You made a claim.

You need to back up that claim when challenged or drop it.

This is how all forms of human conversation work, especially written debate. Either participate by the same rules as the rest of us or fuck off back to your echo chamber.

Operation TROJAN HORSE, an investigation into Islamist or Salafist indoctrination in several Birmingham schools.
Golden Hillock school
Nansen primary school
Park View school
Oldknow Academy
Saltly school
Alston primary
Sent from my echo chamber using Tap a Talk

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Four people were killed last year by an old man driving with poor eyesight who refused to wear his glasses after instruction from both his doctor and the police. Perhaps we should stop all belligerent people with glasses from going out?

And after that, did you notice that all belligerent people with glasses refused to apologise for his act? We should have sent them all back where they came from.

 

[better dead than red]

Heavens to Betsy! I've never seen this kind of argument before.

Thank you for your answer. You have none, and are essentially talking out a dark and remote place that most people use for sitting down.

 

[Xiphos]

Thank you for your answer. You have none, and are essentially talking out a dark and remote place that most people use for sitting down.

Old Trafford?

 

[The perfect fumble]

Thank you for your answer. You have none, and are essentially talking out a dark and remote place that most people use for sitting down.

You're right, I have no answer for you.

 

[snorky]

You're right, I have no answer for you.

Heavens to Murgatroyd!

 

[The perfect fumble]

Heavens to Murgatroyd!

 

[Damocles]

Operation TROJAN HORSE, an investigation into Islamist or Salafist indoctrination in several Birmingham schools.
Golden Hillock school
Nansen primary school
Park View school
Oldknow Academy
Saltly school
Alston primary
Sent from my echo chamber using Tap a Talk

Trojan Horse was a hoaxed letter according to every investigation. After four extensive and many complained unfairly judged investigations carried out by literally everybody involved, there was not a single piece of evidence that backed up the letter and not a single piece of evidence that there was an overarching plot of any kind by any organisation. Nor did any organisation attempt to take credit for this, nor did any leaker come forward. Well not officially anyway, people from 4chan have claimed they fabricated it for lulz but they claim everything. 4 of the schools you've listed had no evidence found of anything at all and one of them was put under Ofsted inspection for lacking good muscial teaching.

All of the rigorous investigations into these schools found that there were people in the system, mainly Governors rather than direct teachers, who held Islamist views. One of the four investigations found that one school changed its culture from secular to Islamic. But then one investigation said that there was no evidence of any extremism from any of the schools or people involved in them and that this was a jumped up charge politicised.

But either way,this is a complicated and heavily researched issue with unclear findings (outside of the singularly agreed finding across all of them that the evidence for a secret plot was laughable). One that you CLEARLY haven't actually done your homework about and have instead called it out like you think the forum is a game of Bingo.

So when you say things like

It was, local shools in Sparkbrook Birmingham were found to be fully infiltrated by jihadi extremists

You look like a fucking idiot.