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BJL_City said:
nope, it's just popular opinion. It's not backed up by his own performances, as Bayern's CL woes in recent years highlight.
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No, it's the consensus.

You're free to not think he's world class, but you are in the minority. Plenty of the best coaches in the world have said he's world class, his fellow professionals think he's world class and so do journalists.

His individual performances have seen him win every trophy going whilst being a key member of those teams and win a whole his of individual accolades and trophies while he did it as well.

Just because he had some dodgy spell here and you didn't like him, or you just don't rate him, doesn't mean that the overwhelming consensus is wrong.
 
domalino said:
No, it's the consensus.

You're free to not think he's world class, but you are in the minority. Plenty of the best coaches in the world have said he's world class, his fellow professionals think he's world class and so do journalists.

His individual performances have seen him win every trophy going and be a key part of the sides he was in while he did it.
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Doesn't make him world class. He's not good enough, he may have played in great teams and got by, but come to the crunch he isn't good enough, and he's proven it over and over again.
 
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