The World's Biggest Child Porn Distributors - The FBI

[Dubai Blue]

It wont have been done for giggles, its effectiveness will have had to have been measured and monitored throughout, and it will have been proportionate tactic to meet the strategic problem - the dark web.

I think the point is that it wasn't very effective at all, given that they can't secure any convictions due to the way they went about it.

 

[Raheem's On Fire]

Why can't they just shut down the whole world of TOR and Dark Web?? Granted I'm no expert but anyone who needs to hide behind VPNS and the like must be up to no good

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Why can't they just shut down the whole world of TOR and Dark Web?? Granted I'm no expert but anyone who needs to hide behind VPNS and the like must be up to no good

I mean most people use VPNs to trick Netflix or BBC iPlayer into thinking you're in a particular country. You also occasionally get Youtube videos that are blocked in certain countries. I guess that's technically up to no good.

I believe TOR became popular as a way to get around the firewall in China, so it does have legitimate uses. I used to have it installed on my computer when I lived in Vietnam, because certain websites would have a habit of disappearing from the internet during elections.

It's actually funded by the US government.

 

[Raheem's On Fire]

I mean most people use VPNs to trick Netflix or BBC iPlayer into thinking you're in a particular country. You also occasionally get Youtube videos that are blocked in certain countries. I guess that's technically up to no good.

I believe TOR started as a way to get around the firewall in China, so it does have legitimate uses. I used to have it installed on my computer when I lived in Vietnam, because certain websites would have a habit of disappearing from the internet during elections.

Yeah sorry, should have said it's varying degrees of "up to no good" of course

But it's still mainly used to either break the law of the land (TV rights, Netflix areas) OR to hide dubious and in the main illegal behaviour which in the worst case can be terrorism or noncing

 

[warpig]

Did the cases collapse due to differing state laws? Either way over 200 peadophiles have now been 'outed' which isn't a bad thing surely.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

To capture criminals, you have to go where they commit their crimes and have what they are looking for.

 

[steviemc]

So they distributed child pornography,

Not sure I agree with this bit. Did they create new child pornography to catch criminals? Or would this already distributed child pornography only been accessed by the scum of the earth that try to (and already) access this? I'm all for internet freedom, but to suggest that this disgusting child pornography was wrongly made available or could have somehow become available to those who didn't want to see it, or may have suddenly become available to those who didn't know how to access disgusting child pornography, is absolute bollocks, and taking this moral idea of 'internet freedom' way too far in my opinion.

Those images were already out there - and you and I both know it. The fact that either of us could have access to this should make no difference. I would never look at any of those images, despite knowing how to do so, and I'm damn sure you wouldn't either. The only losers in this situation would be the paedophiles out there, that knowingly look for these images. I'm as much for the internet being as open and uncensored as the next guy, but please don't try to justify any kind of violation of rights on this. We need to draw a very strong line on this. Anyone who saw those images knew how to access them and knew what they were were looking for.

 

[steviemc]

To capture criminals, you have to go where they commit their crimes and have what they are looking for.

Exactly. This moral high ground that the internet should be untouchable is likely to do as much damage as it does good. I'm all for the freedom the internet gives us, but I won't ever give it preference over the potential vulnerability of the young and/or naive. It's going to be used to snare criminals, and so it should be.

 

[steviemc]

Did the cases collapse due to differing state laws? Either way over 200 peadophiles have now been 'outed' which isn't a bad thing surely.

Yet we still have people suggesting this was in some way 'wrong' and a breach of internet privacy. What the fuck? We're not talking about somebody watching a movie on kodi, or the footy match on a Saturday. We're talking about hundreds of paedophiles now more likely to be prosecuted, or at the very least curtail their disgusting pasttime. Who can disagree with that, or wish that it shouldn't have happened?

 

[CTID1988]

"The Playpen". Fuck me