Scottish man convicted for Nazi dog hate crime : Update - fined £800

[aguero93:20]

There is no such thing as misdemeanour in British law

Presumably you've some level of petty offence that doesn't result in a permanent criminal record?

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Presumably you've some level of petty offence that doesn't result in a permanent criminal record?

We will have to disagree then that this is a petty offence. This is outrageous anti-semitism and a despicable glorification of the holocaust and the bloke got away far too lightly imo

 

[west didsblue]

In my view if the guy wants to train his dog then so be it. Putting video of it doing so in this manner is bound to offend some people - Jeremy Corbyn will tell you that - so he shouldn't have been that surprised when the Police knocked at the door. Had he kept it personal or local none of this would have happened. However for me where the issue lies is judge's the claim that context in humour doesn't matter. Without context there is no humour - black or gallows humour relies totally on is getting it or not because of the context in which the joke is framed and ultimately if you don't get it then yes you have the right to be offended but ONLY if you do so on the understand it was only a joke and any such offence caused was unintentional. Without any of that then we may as well ban all comedy.

Sorry that's bollocks.
If what you say is right people can write as much vile racist shit as they like as long as they put a smiley face on the end indicating that it's supposed to be tongue in cheek.

 

[aguero93:20]

We will have to disagree then that this is a petty offence. This is outrageous anti-semitism and a despicable glorification of the holocaust and the bloke got away far too lightly imo

Intention not action, he can't claim free speech as he's published it but the harm was caused by stupidity and ignorance and not malicious intent.

 

[malg]

Presumably you've some level of petty offence that doesn't result in a permanent criminal record?

If you were on the BBC payroll in the 70s, 80s and 90s, then child abuse.......

 

[The blue phantom]

That told him.

Jack Dawkins (@MossadJack) Tweeted:
BOOM @CountDankulaTV truth bomb smashes Sky journalist narrative and the whole ridiculousness of the prosecution is exposed! https://t.co/wEFH9IstEu

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Intention not action, he can't claim free speech as he's published it but the harm was caused by stupidity and ignorance and not malicious intent.

Yeah, so he says

 

[aguero93:20]

Yeah, so he says

Burden of proof is on the prosecution not the defendant. You can't prove intent beyond the balance of probability here, never mind beyond reasonable doubt. If he was financially able to hire a decent barrister and appeal it he'd probably win as they've overstepped the bounds by assigning intent without proving it. As he says in the video above, why should anyone consider your context when nobody is considering his?

 

[aguero93:20]

Yeah, so he says

And furthermore Wally, the very fact that the punishment was only an £800 fine shows that the judge considered it a petty offence.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

All this about context and jokes is bullshit. What part of him saying "Gas the Jews" is not a race hate crime ? If he was saying "Drown the Packies" or "Burn the Blacks" it would be treated exactly the same. He got off lightly with his fine if you ask me.