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True. It's also in my case a way of arguing with people you don't really want to. I would probably get on with most on here im arguing with. Covid is a fucking ****.

I don't think we should lock down, yet. Lockdowns cause so much more problems for society and should only be used as a last resort imo. We are not there yet for me. They should only be used if it looks like health systems will be over loaded. I am repeating myself but i choose to isolate my self...

Does anyone know how they asess severity of a new variant? is it only by comparing people who have had no previous infections or jabs, or had 1 strain, Delta and Omicron? jabs and no infections? or just it all possibilities together? seems like there would be so many variables to untangle.

I am glad you are ok, i am but lets be clear here you have been one of the truly worst posters throughout this pandemic. You buy into conspiracy theories, attack science and post some truly moronic stuff. I would be amazed if you agreed with me abut listening to experts.

I'm not arsed about politeness, couldn't give 2 fucks. I'm only arsed about not listening to people on social media over the experts/

Are you being hostile now?

If the consensus of the worlds scientists say it i will gladly accept it. I truly truly hope it is. My very life may depend on it. I am only advocating that we wait for the scientists to say it. Oh and btw, i will never "change my tune" over wanting to listen to experts over unqualified people...

You're "out" because you have no reasonable response to "listen to the experts before unqualified people on the internet"

What a truly embarrassing post. I mean i'm not trying to tell people anything about this virus, about how to behave just to listen to the experts and yet you post that. Absolutely cringe worthy. Again what are you in favour of? listening to people on social media over the experts?

Probably during a pandemic where misinformation costs lives i would have thought. I mean what are you arguing for here? That we should listen to unqualified people on social media over the overwhelming consensus of the world's experts during a pandemic?

No they don't. They take it from qualified people who can show the research. Not unqualified people on a football forum. You clearly want to buy what he is selling because it's more palatable to you than the alternative. You want to call me "hostile" (even though i have insulted no one or...

Their is No conclusive data either way so it is right to err on the side of caution. All i am saying is don't listen to people on an internet forum over the experts . I'm immune compromised, believe me i want it to be weaker. I want a weaker strain to eradicate all other variants and covid...

Are you for real? I'm literally saying "don't believe unqualified people on the internet over the experts" and that's considered "hostile"? Misinformation cost lives. I can't believe this place sometimes. How, in any way is what i am saying controversial?

You asked me a ridiculous question to what i posted. Why would the occasional scientific error have anything to do with listening to unqualified people on a football forum? i don't understand what you are even getting at.

Keep believing people on the internet over the worlds experts.

Haha keep believing unqualified people on the internet over the experts.

Is that where we are now? turning on the NHS during an unprecedented modern pandemic because you don't want to hear or face up to certain things? It's like them yanks who go on and on about the constitution but would have seen it burn to keep Trump in power.

Not at all but are you seriously saying that we should discount all scientists and experts because errors may be made now and again? or that we should believe what some unqualified bloke on a football forum says instead? I seriously don't understand your question.

Steely Dan were my number 3. Easily the greatest American band imo.

Other statisticians will be compiling data on public transport usage in the under 40s or exhaust durability in diesel cars, it doesn't make them train drivers or mechanics. As long as he keeps saying the experts are wrong i will pull him up on it.