Mister Appointment said:bluemc1 said:i don't think its been proved we haven't stood still for 3 years, as a team are we any better than 3 years ago having spent how many millions on players ??
Why is it so difficult to view our spending through it's correct context? Yes we've spent tens of millions in the last 3 years, but we haven't simply been adding players on top of players. We have consistently been replacing players. Whether it's Barry, Lescott, Tevez, Balo, Johnson, Rodwell, De Jong, etc etc. You need to replace players who leave, which is what we've been doing.
What we haven't done is try to replace the core of our side. It's true to say we haven't signed anyone better than Silva, Aguero, Kompany, Toure, Zaba etc. But they are the core of our side and clearly the management feel that those players are untouchable in terms of their status. This means that for example last summer we didn't need to sign Costa because we had Kun, Fabregas because we had Toure, Luke Shaw because we have Clichy and Kolarov. It's completely fallacious to say we've stood still whilst spending tens of millions because as I say it completely removes to context of our spending.
I also find it really tragic that whenever certain posters arguments are found wanting they resort to "you're not allowed to discuss or criticise the manager on Bluemoon". That's patently a fucking nonsense - but if you criticise without just cause you can expect your points will be taken apart. And if you feel Bluemoon isn't being fair to your criticisms of Pellegrini - well as Blueinsa said, there's a forum I believe which is pretty much there solely to slag off Bluemoon and Pellegrini.
im not arsed about the dick swinging going on, I'm not unhappy with MP, i don't think he is a great manager or a bad one, we don't need to replace those core players like you say but with just those players we haven't made a dent in the CL yet so i would say we need to improve the players in other areas. from the team that 1st won the league we lost Tevez and De Jong and in my opinion haven't come close to replacing them ( Bony might be a different matter )
im not blaming anyone for this, i know a lot goes on there is nothing you can do about, Hazard and Bale are 2 who would have taken us up a notch but i know its no ones fault we didn't get them. i would say now we have signed Bony we need a top draw left back and centre half but who do i think is out there that would be good enough ? i don't know, so its not that simple.
The thing is I'm very happy with City now, we win most weeks compete in the top competitions, have overtaken United and will be winnings cups of some sort for a good while no matter who is in charge. At the moment when we play Munich Madrid Barcelona we are 2nd best ( please don't give are 2 wins over Munich as an argument ) on a football side we are not at that level but I'm not going to start moaning about not being as good as those teams esp when i don't know who we could get myself to take us there.
So even though i don't think anyone is to blame i don't think we have improved as a team in 3 years so yes we have stood still