Article 50/Brexit Negotiations

[Magicpole]

Why? I'm asking why you think that 'Europe needs migrants' when the unemployment figures are so high.

That's why you need to read the reports and it will explain why unemployment levels are not the factor.

Potential growth.

If you look at our growing numbers of badly educated and limited social skills they can neither provide the workers for growth and indeed themselves become a group we need to support.

If we are to succeed, education needs to be embraced in areas that's attainment levels are borderline third world.

We also need more people producing more children who are educated and able to meet the demands of a changing world.

Too many people want high paying jobs without actually having to even go to school and try a leg. That's a choice. Don't take that choice then blame every other **** that you can't get a job in macdonalds.

We need to step up to the plate and that means all those feeling cut off from prosperity giving companies a reason to set up there dye to an educated workforce. To demand education is funded probably by whatever Tory gov is in. It will be Tory so good luck there. And still allowing people to come here.

 

[Magicpole]

Rubbish man.

How can free movement fix what is a global human issue of people living longer and wanting smaller families?

You move people from one country to another and you just create the issue in the country they have vacated.

its not rocket science.

We are going round in circles.

 

[blueinsa]

We are going round in circles.

Only because you wont give me a straight answer to the straight question i posed mate.

You're answering in riddles half the time.

 

[Magicpole]

Only because you wont give me a straight answer to the straight question i posed mate.

You're answering in riddles half the time.

The answer is different countries have different demographic profiles that mean we can recruit from them. Some economies have too many people. Or is that growing world pop all in my head?

 

[blueinsa]

The answer is different countries have different demographic profiles that mean we can recruit from them. Some economies have too many people. Or is that growing world pop all in my head?

its not just about numbers though is it?

if we need 2000 doctors there is no point in taking 2000 unskilled migrants from Albania because they have been busy making babies.

We want a thought out, skills based points system that takes a look at what skills we are short off and then lets anyone from anywhere in the world apply to fill and we take who we feel is the best fit.

Currently its a no holds barred all come in system from within the EU and because of that, we have basically given up trying to manage numbers from elsewhere and its completely unsustainable not just for us, but also for the countries where the largest numbers are coming from as they face depopulation and the ensuing workforce they will need if their economy is to grow and be successful.

106 Billion Euro has been given to Poland between 2014-2020 from the EU yet its doing nothing as they are leaving in numbers to come work and live here when they would be better served staying in Poland and with their government, using that money to grow, something that subsidy is designed to help.

Your almost robbing Peter to pay Paul with this ill thought out mantra that dictates you can go live and work wherever you want regardless.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Bollocks- You don't half squirm. You accuse blueinsa of attacking the man and then immediately comment on the grammar of another poster in an attempt to ridicule I assume.

You just can never accept being wrong and twist in the wind to spin things

Wrong again, I'm no grammar Nazi, as my posts testify. I'm not talking about an errant comma, the post was incomprehensible.

Your posts are comprehensible, I think they are misguided, but they manage to get across, more or less, what it is you are trying to say.

 

[blueinsa]

Wrong again, I'm no grammar Nazi, as my posts testify. I'm not talking about an errant comma, the post was incomprehensible.

Your posts are comprehensible, I think they are misguided, but they manage to get across, more or less, what it is you are trying to say.

In what way was it incomprehensible?

Or is this yet another example of you being High Brow and superior or should I say, attempting to be?

 

[The perfect fumble]

In what way was it incomprehensible?

Or is this yet another example of you being High Brow and superior or should I say, attempting to be?

Get over you obsession with me and post something substantive.

 

[blueinsa]

Get over you obsession with me and post something substantive.

Your current meltdown is as predictable as it is funny.

 

[BlueHammer85]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...open-europe-eu-migrants-fantasy-a7667586.html

 

[Len Rum]

I've come to the conclusion you were raised by aliens.

Wow, yesterday facts, today a conclusion.
Stretching the envelope for a Brexiter!

 

[blueinsa]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...open-europe-eu-migrants-fantasy-a7667586.html

"So don’t you worry your sweet little heads, Brexit-backers. Britain will still have greater control over its borders. Oh yes it will"!

Another sore loser doing what he does best.....

 

[The perfect fumble]

A harsh dose of reality kicks in....

MEPs agree Brexit negotiation plan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39501876

What are the red lines?
The motion backs a number of positions taken by EU leaders, including the need for a "phased approach" to negotiations.

This would require progress on the terms of Britain's withdrawal, including settling financial commitments, before talks on a future trading relationship can start.

It also backs the call for transparency in the talks, and for the UK to be considered liable for financial commitments that apply after it leaves the EU.

It also says:

• transitional arrangements should be time-limited to three years and be enforced by the EU's Court of Justice

• UK citizens in the EU and EU citizens in Britain should receive "reciprocal" treatment

• the final deal should not include a "trade-off" between trade and security co-operation

• the UK should adhere to EU environmental and anti-tax evasion standards to get close trade ties

• the European Banking Authority and European Medicines Agency should be moved out of London

• the UK should pay towards costs for the EU that "arise directly from its withdrawal"

 

[Magicpole]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...open-europe-eu-migrants-fantasy-a7667586.html

The populists up and down the country won't like this one little bit.

All leftie sour grapes and angst.

Even though she said it herself.

They made her. Took it out of context. We will be safe again. We will have control. They shall not pass.

Maybe take a leaf out of the Populist Kings book and build a wall and make the eu pay for it. That would be terrific.

Will they fuck and the sooner they start recognising that the easier it will be in the long run.

Every brexit promise apart from the one wanting us out of the single market and fucking us all up, is withering on the vine of reality.

Who knew?

 

[sir baconface]

Wow, yesterday facts, today a conclusion.
Stretching the envelope for a Brexiter!

Wow. Little Lennie's on form this afternoon.

 

[blueinsa]

Any anti brexit report is greeted like one of these by a drowning man.....

Cling on boys....cling on!

 

[Dextersmate]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...open-europe-eu-migrants-fantasy-a7667586.html

Yes ,and the brexshit lads will pay a lot more for their Blackpool hols.

 

[Mike D]

Do you eat cheese before going to sleep?

Never it would give me nightmares and ruin my optimistic outlook for the following day.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

There will be hard choices to be made but better that than be ruled by by the unelected in Brussels.

 

[Xiphos]

The populists up and down the country won't like this one little bit.

All leftie sour grapes and angst.

Even though she said it herself.

They made her. Took it out of context. We will be safe again. We will have control. They shall not pass.

Maybe take a leaf out of the Populist Kings book and build a wall and make the eu pay for it. That would be terrific.

Will they fuck and the sooner they start recognising that the easier it will be in the long run.

Every brexit promise apart from the one wanting us out of the single market and fucking us all up, is withering on the vine of reality.

Who knew?

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