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Pablo1 said:
Miles away from what? He's in with a shout to win our player of the year.
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Pretty much what I was going to say.

I think the kind of City fans I really, genuinely despise are the ones who wait until Sterling has a bad game and then crawl out of the woodwork to slag him off and pretend he's not been very good across the season.

It's just so slimy and nasty. Never any credit when he does well, never a "he proved me wrong today" just silence until he's slightly off form and then the knives come out and they say how he was shit all along, they knew they were right etc.

Lowest of the low, in my opinion.
 
MarsLlama said:
Great player, total prick. Would rather Maffeo played next season regardless of ability.
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There we are, there lies the problem.

Too many weak minds in the team, and seemingly in the stands now. We need pricks, we need wankers, we need horrible bastards in the team
We got physically and mentally bullied by ARSENAL at the weekend, they've only done that twice to a decent team in about 3 years...both against us!

Embarrassing to say the least that the whole club and fanbase is in uproar about 'cheating' refs and 'agendas', but we want to be all nicey nicey back nevertheless
Need to be more ruthless, with players who are willing to go through anyone to win, and a talent in gamesmanship.
Tevez was bloody horrible, but hes a legend, he dragged us through the sh*t at times
 
----------------Ederson
Fabinho Kompany Stones Kolasinac
--------------Gundogan
Sterling De Bruyne Silva Sané
Aguero

Bravo, Kolarov, Otamendi, Fernandinho, Navas, Roberts, Jesus

If we lined up like this on opening day next season I think I'd be happy with it. It's not unrealistic at least.
 
richards30 said:
but he would be our prick? the same as bellamy was?
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Danny_Johnson4 said:
There we are, there lies the problem.

Too many weak minds in the team, and seemingly in the stands now. We need pricks, we need wankers, we need horrible bastards in the team
We got physically and mentally bullied by ARSENAL at the weekend, they've only done that twice to a decent team in about 3 years...both against us!

Embarrassing to say the least that the whole club and fanbase is in uproar about 'cheating' refs and 'agendas', but we want to be all nicey nicey back nevertheless
Need to be more ruthless, with players who are willing to go through anyone to win, and a talent in gamesmanship.
Tevez was bloody horrible, but hes a legend, he dragged us through the sh*t at times
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Walker went on social media moaning about City being a plastic oil money club. This is a bit different to Bellamy.
 
domalino said:
@Jazzman is actually wrong, he will get a work permit easily.

Anyone who thinks he won't get a work permit, compare him to Iheanacho, who was an 18 year old who'd never played a professional game of football in his life, let alone for Nigeria.

Enes is a Turkish international competing to be the youngest top scorer in the Eredivisie since Ronaldo in 1994. He will get one through the points based appeals system comfortably.
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Sorry guys, didn't mean to be posting alarmist negative shit. I just saw this story on transfermarkt.de where Unal himself said that he expected another season on load due to problems with a work permit. The article speculated that he would go to another dutch club as Twente is not allowed to play international games (not 100% about the reason).
 
I don't want to sound like a party pooper, but I hear me out:

Let's just say we manage to buy 6 top class players who are supposed to walk straight into our first team. How many managers/DoF with a 100% record in the transfer market, our boys certainly haven't. So factor that in, then factor in the settling-in period that some, if not all will need. Then, think about how many teams buy 6 players, that settle straightaway, walk straight into the first em and go on to win the league? I can't think of any

there is a fair chance that we will be sat here this time next year having the same conversation
 
Jazzman said:
Sorry guys, didn't mean to be posting alarmist negative shit. I just saw this story on transfermarkt.de where Unal himself said that he expected another season on load due to problems with a work permit. The article speculated that he would go to another dutch club as Twente is not allowed to play international games (not 100% about the reason).
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He did say himself that he wouldn't get one, but his own reasoning "I haven't played enough over 2 years" is wrong - he's under21 so the period is only 12 months. He also gets the percentage wrong and seemingly doesn't know there's a very often used and very often successful appeals process.

I think there's 2 explanations, either he's been told that by his agent or some 3rd party who doesn't know the actual work permit rules, or he's speaking publicly in order to drop a hint to Fatih Terim he needs to get played in Turkey's next few internationals.
 
Blue Hefner said:
I don't want to sound like a party pooper, but I hear me out:

Let's just say we manage to buy 6 top class players who are supposed to walk straight into our first team. How many managers/DoF with a 100% record in the transfer market, our boys certainly haven't. So factor that in, then factor in the settling-in period that some, if not all will need. Then, think about how many teams buy 6 players, that settle straightaway, walk straight into the first em and go on to win the league? I can't think of any

there is a fair chance that we will be sat here this time next year having the same conversation
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In 2013 the very same DoF bought Negredo, Navas, Fernandinho and Demichelis. All settled very quickly, all did well in their debut seasons, and all contributed massively to a league cup double.
 
domalino said:
He did say himself that he wouldn't get one, but his own reasoning "I haven't played enough over 2 years" is wrong - he's under21 so the period is only 12 months. He also gets the percentage wrong and seemingly doesn't know there's a very often used and very often successful appeals process.

I think there's 2 explanations, either he's been told that by his agent or some 3rd party who doesn't know the actual work permit rules, or he's speaking publicly in order to drop a hint to Fatih Terim he needs to get played in Turkey's next few internationals.
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Right, thanks for the clarification. It would be nice to see him playing for City eventually. He seems a good talent.
 
domalino said:
In 2013 the very same DoF bought Negredo, Navas, Fernandinho and Demichelis. All settled very quickly, all did well in their debut seasons, and all contributed massively to a league cup double.
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Those players complemented a side that had finished 3rd, 1st and 2nd. Not limped to 4th 2 seasons on the trot
 
Blue Hefner said:
Those players complemented a side that had finished 3rd, 1st and 2nd. Not limped to 4th 2 seasons on the trot
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You could also phrase it "They came into a side that had just given the worst title defence in PL history, bailed on the manager and lost the FA Cup final to Wigan".

And if we do well next season you'll say "Yeah but those new signings complimented a side that won the league cup and got to a CL semi-final the year before".

It's looking for excuses to be miserable. There's absolutely no reason why 4 or 5 signings can't come straight in, settle and hit the ground running. It's happened before and it will happen again.

It's obvious that we're being let down by a few crucial positions. The fullbacks, the keeper and the defensive midfielder are pulling the rest of the side down to well below the actual level of the rest of the team.

Plus we're favourites to finished 3rd now Liverpool have capitulated.
 
Danny_Johnson4 said:
There we are, there lies the problem.

Too many weak minds in the team, and seemingly in the stands now. We need pricks, we need wankers, we need horrible bastards in the team
We got physically and mentally bullied by ARSENAL at the weekend, they've only done that twice to a decent team in about 3 years...both against us!

Embarrassing to say the least that the whole club and fanbase is in uproar about 'cheating' refs and 'agendas', but we want to be all nicey nicey back nevertheless
Need to be more ruthless, with players who are willing to go through anyone to win, and a talent in gamesmanship.
Tevez was bloody horrible, but hes a legend, he dragged us through the sh*t at times
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It's an interesting concept that we got bullied by Arsenal.

We conceded TWENTY free kicks. We had SIXTY SIX PECENT of the ball. TWENTY fucking free kicks during the 34% Arsenal had. TWENTY.

We got FOULED by Arsenal, but they got as many free kicks, in their 34% as we did in our 66%. So if we had 'bullied' like Arsenal did, we would have conceded FORTY, yes FORTY free kicks. One every two minutes.

I wish people would stop talking utter nonsense about this.

Kyle Walker would just get booked for his first foul if he'd played with a Ciy shirt on & for his 10th if he'd been playing for Arsenal.

The idea that we can sign a bunch of nasty fucks who 'bully' people & get away with it, is bollocks, we will not get away with it, unless we also bring in someone like Mourinho & change our shirts to red.
 
domalino said:
You could also phrase it "They came into a side that had just given the worst title defence in PL history, bailed on the manager and lost the FA Cup final to Wigan".

And if we do well next season you'll say "Yeah but those new signings complimented a side that won the league cup and got to a CL semi-final the year before".

It's looking for excuses to be miserable. There's absolutely no reason why 4 or 5 signings can't come straight in, settle and hit the ground running.
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I'm not looking for reasons to be miserable, at all. I am just pointing out that buying 5 or 6 players may not be the answer to all our prayers, that some are looking for
 
Blue Hefner said:
I'm not looking for reasons to be miserable, at all. I am just pointing out that buying 5 or 6 players may not be the answer to all our prayers, that some are looking for
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But it is, because it's really obvious that 3 or 4 positions are dragging this side well below the level of the rest. New fullbacks alone would be worth at least 10 points for the current side.

The current front 5 is enough to win this league easily, if they could get a better platform. A pair of fullbacks who could give width to allow Sané and Sterling to come into the box would result in a lot more goals, and if they could defend a cross and even tuck inside we'd concede a lot less.

If we'd had Kompany all season we'd probably be 10 points better off too, so buying a proper leader of a CB who can replicate his authority and hand-hold Otamendi and Stones would do the same.

And a keeper who can save the few chances on goal we concede would be another 6 or 7 points too.

This team is a mess, but we've got by far the easiest and most obvious path to correcting it of anyone in the top 6.

Making the jump from best in England to best in Europe is going to be the difficult step.
 
domalino said:
But it is, because it's really obvious that 3 or 4 positions are dragging this side well below the level of the rest. New fullbacks alone would be worth at least 10 points for the current side.

The current front 5 is enough to win this league easily, if they could get a better platform. A pair of fullbacks who could give width to allow Sané and Sterling to come into the box would result in a lot more goals, and if they could defend a cross and even tuck inside we'd concede a lot less.

If we'd had Kompany all season we'd probably be 10 points better off too, so buying a proper leader of a CB who can replicate his authority and hand-hold Otamendi and Stones would do the same.

And a keeper who can save the few chances on goal we concede would be another 6 or 7 points too.

This team is a mess, but we've got by far the easiest and most obvious path to correcting it of anyone in the top 6.

Making the jump from best in England to best in Europe is going to be the difficult step.
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I completely agree

If it was up to me, and lets be honest there is no point having all the money in the World if we are not going to spend it. I'd try and buy Busquets, Alaba, Walker, another striker and 2 midfield players who know how to get the opposition booked and can score

The amount of ball our fullbacks get in the opposition half, yet do nothing with it, is shocking
 
domalino said:
Pretty much what I was going to say.

I think the kind of City fans I really, genuinely despise are the ones who wait until Sterling has a bad game and then crawl out of the woodwork to slag him off and pretend he's not been very good across the season.

It's just so slimy and nasty. Never any credit when he does well, never a "he proved me wrong today" just silence until he's slightly off form and then the knives come out and they say how he was shit all along, they knew they were right etc.

Lowest of the low, in my opinion.
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Who slagged him off, he is miles away from Jesus, as for Sterling, he will get even better just by consistently doing what he is good at, and practicing his shooting every day.
 
Neville Kneville said:
It's an interesting concept that we got bullied by Arsenal.

We conceded TWENTY free kicks. We had SIXTY SIX PECENT of the ball. TWENTY fucking free kicks during the 34% Arsenal had. TWENTY.

We got FOULED by Arsenal, but they got as many free kicks, in their 34% as we did in our 66%. So if we had 'bullied' like Arsenal did, we would have conceded FORTY, yes FORTY free kicks. One every two minutes.

I wish people would stop talking utter nonsense about this.

Kyle Walker would just get booked for his first foul if he'd played with a Ciy shirt on & for his 10th if he'd been playing for Arsenal.

The idea that we can sign a bunch of nasty fucks who 'bully' people & get away with it, is bollocks, we will not get away with it, unless we also bring in someone like Mourinho & change our shirts to red.
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Bazinga, or grow a set and tell it like it fucking is to the cheats, gill the fa and the fooking tv twats, fooking corrupt cartel cnuts.
 
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