Seasoncard Renewals 2017/18

[tolmie's hairdoo]

There is a very simple way to hit City in the pocket, don't buy any of that overpriced shit in the stadium?

If the Club are citing some of the increased costs due to services such as kiosks, it's a simple trade-off.

Don't spend £4 on a pint of piss.

Don't spend £4 on a pie, irrespective of whether it has been hand-fecking crimped by Jamie Oliver, himself.

Don't spend £6 on a burger or a hotdog, yep, six English pounds.

I'm sure City might get the message eventually.

It would certainly stop people racing from their seats with ten minutes of the first-half remaining when the ball goes out of play.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I don't see any difference between the concerns of City fans over this grab and those people who voted Brexit or Trump?

There comes a time when people feel nobody is actually listening to them anymore, simply because the elite feel they can just keep doing what the hell they like, without fear of consequences.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

The football side of City seems to me to be run very well. Academy, women and for most of the time the 1st team at or near the top of the tree. However the vision City have, has somewhere been lost. We were the club that smashed the mould of English football. Aguero dealt a hammer blow to Man Utd and the top 4 and City were set to become a new force in football. The Etihad Campus was under development. Tramway, new stand, training ground, colleges and more. A signpost for the future, but somehow this vision has got lost and we look more and more like a club heading for Arsenal.com than a football club set to displace Barcelona and Real Madrid at the pyramid of world football.

If you look in our league today, the club with hope, vision, and identity is Spurs. They have a new stadium, a young team, and their supporters, and players are buying into it. Somewhere down the line, City's fans began to lose belief in where we are going and that is entirely down to the incompetence of the executives at MCFC who think that communciation is all about the MBA giving a speech at the end of the season. I don't want to hear much from the boardroom, but I do want to see some evidence that City are determined to move forward as a football club, and that we are not settling for top 4, and maximising cash flow. We could make a start by announcing what intentions we have with the ground expansion. That can be a tremendous galvanising forward thinking effect. Stop pandering to corporate clients, and put your fans first. Ticketing. Regular supporters should get priority. Ticket pricing: I don't think the pricing is that bad in regards to season tickets, but adding £10 to season tickets was a silly move.

Three or four years ago City looked like an unstoppable train, but through our own incompetence we have managed to throw away the momentum we had. If I were Sheik Mansour, I'd be making some changes in the boardroom. They don't have much to do, but almost everything they do has been very poorly done.

Spot on.

 

[JPAMCR]

The football side of City seems to me to be run very well. Academy, women and for most of the time the 1st team at or near the top of the tree. However the vision City have, has somewhere been lost. We were the club that smashed the mould of English football. Aguero dealt a hammer blow to Man Utd and the top 4 and City were set to become a new force in football. The Etihad Campus was under development. Tramway, new stand, training ground, colleges and more. A signpost for the future, but somehow this vision has got lost and we look more and more like a club heading for Arsenal.com than a football club set to displace Barcelona and Real Madrid at the pyramid of world football.

If you look in our league today, the club with hope, vision, and identity is Spurs. They have a new stadium, a young team, and their supporters, and players are buying into it. Somewhere down the line, City's fans began to lose belief in where we are going and that is entirely down to the incompetence of the executives at MCFC who think that communciation is all about the MBA giving a speech at the end of the season. I don't want to hear much from the boardroom, but I do want to see some evidence that City are determined to move forward as a football club, and that we are not settling for top 4, and maximising cash flow. We could make a start by announcing what intentions we have with the ground expansion. That can be a tremendous galvanising forward thinking effect. Stop pandering to corporate clients, and put your fans first. Ticketing. Regular supporters should get priority. Ticket pricing: I don't think the pricing is that bad in regards to season tickets, but adding £10 to season tickets was a silly move.

Three or four years ago City looked like an unstoppable train, but through our own incompetence we have managed to throw away the momentum we had. If I were Sheik Mansour, I'd be making some changes in the boardroom. They don't have much to do, but almost everything they do has been very poorly done.

Can't agree with the Arsenal and Tottenham bits. We've brought in a superb manager and have brought in some excellent players for big money. Huge investment in the academy that looks set to produce over the next few years. I don't see this as a sign that we're settling for anything.
This season we have underachieved but bear in mind 2 of the 3 teams currently above us had no European football and the other went out sharpish. The teams below us have hugely experienced PL managers and expensive squads. We have a manager in his 1st year in the Prem and an ageing squad - the very definition of a team in transition.
For a few inexplicable referring decisions, 2 penalty misses against Everton and a lack of concentration v Monaco the season could have looked a lot better. This doesn't excuse some poor performances though.

Spurs are this year's Leicester, 2014's Liverpool mediawise and are playing some great football but they'll end up with as many trophies as us.

I agree wholeheatedly with your views on corporates and ticketing.

 

[mayo31]

Very good post.

People seem so eager on here to criticise everything about City as a club....and some reactions are way over the top. The main talking point with my City mates right now is just who might come in during the next transfer window and a cautious excitement as to what City might do in Pep's second season....it makes you feel quite upbeat about the future.

Then I'll drop in to see what's being discussed on BM and get totally depressed.....haha!!...not quite....with all the doom and gloom to be found on here.

I'm not sure now which is worse.....the rag media attack on everything at City or the Bluemoan attack on City....LOL!!!!!!.

Edited.

 

[mayo31]

There is a very simple way to hit City in the pocket, don't buy any of that overpriced shit in the stadium?

If the Club are citing some of the increased costs due to services such as kiosks, it's a simple trade-off.

Don't spend £4 on a pint of piss.

Don't spend £4 on a pie, irrespective of whether it has been hand-fecking crimped by Jamie Oliver, himself.

Don't spend £6 on a burger or a hotdog, yep, six English pounds.

I'm sure City might get the message eventually.

It would certainly stop people racing from their seats with ten minutes of the first-half remaining when the ball goes out of play.

I still remember being in the family stand when the kids were younger and the first time the smell of chips etc was being purposely pumped from the concourse to us in the stands. I kid you not.

Pavlov would have been proud

 

[Bill]

The football side of City seems to me to be run very well. Academy, women and for most of the time the 1st team at or near the top of the tree. However the vision City have, has somewhere been lost. We were the club that smashed the mould of English football. Aguero dealt a hammer blow to Man Utd and the top 4 and City were set to become a new force in football. The Etihad Campus was under development. Tramway, new stand, training ground, colleges and more. A signpost for the future, but somehow this vision has got lost and we look more and more like a club heading for Arsenal.com than a football club set to displace Barcelona and Real Madrid at the pyramid of world football.

If you look in our league today, the club with hope, vision, and identity is Spurs. They have a new stadium, a young team, and their supporters, and players are buying into it. Somewhere down the line, City's fans began to lose belief in where we are going and that is entirely down to the incompetence of the executives at MCFC who think that communciation is all about the MBA giving a speech at the end of the season. I don't want to hear much from the boardroom, but I do want to see some evidence that City are determined to move forward as a football club, and that we are not settling for top 4, and maximising cash flow. We could make a start by announcing what intentions we have with the ground expansion. That can be a tremendous galvanising forward thinking effect. Stop pandering to corporate clients, and put your fans first. Ticketing. Regular supporters should get priority. Ticket pricing: I don't think the pricing is that bad in regards to season tickets, but adding £10 to season tickets was a silly move.

Three or four years ago City looked like an unstoppable train, but through our own incompetence we have managed to throw away the momentum we had. If I were Sheik Mansour, I'd be making some changes in the boardroom. They don't have much to do, but almost everything they do has been very poorly done.

without doubt the best post you have contributed to this forum.

well said Marvin.

 

[thekippax]

Yes I thought so I just wanted to know why ?
I think the price rise alone is not going to make many people give up but I get the feeling an accumulation of negative aspects of the club and the direction it is going is making people question wheather to carry on. This price rise is disasterous pr & makes you wonder if it was designed to clear a few out, the new parking restrictions , the awfull tram/bus service, the harassment of fans by Showsec, que's & searches all add up but the big one for me is the corrupt officials that City say & do nothing about make me wonder wheather to join him .

Yes you are right mate I'm not leaving because of the price rise, it's an accumulation of things some of them out of City's control like traffic and parking but not least the atrocious standard of the match officials. I'm afraid I just don't enjoy the whole match experience enough anymore to warrant paying the best part of £700. Maybe if a decent standard of video refereeing was brought in I will reconsider my position in the future, assuming I'm not too old by then.

 

[HelloCity]

I don't see any difference between the concerns of City fans over this grab and those people who voted Brexit or Trump?

There comes a time when people feel nobody is actually listening to them anymore, simply because the elite feel they can just keep doing what the hell they like, without fear of consequences.

That's an awful comparison and one which should be kept well away from a thread like this.

Especially when Brexit will inevitably result in us paying out more rather than less, and paying less is what we all want.

 

[our tommy]

Renewed yesterday. Never in doubt. For me a £25 increase will not suddenly make it less affordable than last year. Have some of the people who say their seats have gone up 50% over the last 5 years changed category to say over 21 from under 21? Or is it people who were in the seats that were being re-categorised as being superior seats and therefor have additional benefits? Maybe I have just been lucky with my seat being in level 3 east stand where prices have not increased so much?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Renewed yesterday. Never in doubt. For me a £25 increase will not suddenly make it less affordable than last year. Have some of the people who say their seats have gone up 50% over the last 5 years changed category to say over 21 from under 21? Or is it people who were in the seats that were being re-categorised as being superior seats and therefor have additional benefits? Maybe I have just been lucky with my seat being in level 3 east stand where prices have not increased so much?

I've been in the same seat since I moved in 2006/7, I'm well over 21 so there's been no category change and in that time it's nearly doubled.

 

[mancityvstoke]

mines nearly doubled since 2011

 

[Charlesfarsbar]

At the end of the day the club know that the increase isn't big enough to put people off renewing or signing up for their season card

We are just customers to the club, its the same up and down the country , especially at the bigger clubs. The club execs are probably targeted on increasing revenue year on year, this will be just another way for them to hit their end of year bonus

What is a crying shame is that we have the owner and resources to do things differently, we could have been seen as a role model club , one that treats their fans as part of the big city family instead of just a number on a spreadsheet. We have become exactly what we used to ridicule the rags for

The positivity that was around the club in the summer of 2012 seems to have been squandered

 

[HelloCity]

I'm fully against any increase in ticket costs. I believe we're already at the limit of what is acceptable, reasonable and affordable to the average person.

I've got a reasonably well paid job and I can afford my ticket no problem, but I care about those that can't. I've always been brought up with the thinking that we have to look out for our own and I'll stand by any City fan who vents their frustrations at increased ticket prices.

Some fans seem to only care about themselves and have laughed off increases as 'Well, it's only £15 a year!', but it's not about that. It's about the direction the ship is heading. We're on a staircase at the moment and at the top of that staircase are super expensive season tickets, each step we take is another step closer to the top and before you know it, time flies, and you're at the top of the stairs paying through the roof. That's why people are upset, not because of the 'low' amount of the increase, but because of the journey and direction the ticket prices are heading towards.

As a supporter it makes you feel like you're not important, that you're just a customer. When you see these mega TV deals there is absolutely no reason to increase ticket prices further. When you go to the match having paid so much money to be there, you EXPECT to be entertained, you EXPECT to win and the EXPECT to play well on each occasion, and that's hammered home by knowing that the players are on hundreds of thousands of pounds a week. That's what is killing the atmosphere in England. The expectation based on ticket prices and player wages, along with long time, local and die hard fans being slowly driven away by the cost.

The best atmosphere we've ever had at the Etihad was against Hamburg in the Europa League and it's no coincidence that the tickets for that game were a fiver each. It brought in loads of locals, people who can't usually afford it and it made people feel like they weren't just customers. Fans didn't sit on their hands demanding to be entertained because they'd paid through the roof, they came as fans having paid a nominal entrance fee and wanted to cheer the team on loudly because of that.

 

[our tommy]

I've been in the same seat since I moved in 2006/7, I'm well over 21 so there's been no category change and in that time it's nearly doubled.

I honestly didn't know that some have had that level of increase. So nearly 100% increase in 10 years. Wow. 7% pa compounded. If mine had gone up that much I certainly wouldn't be happy.

 

[mancityvstoke]

I'm fully against any increase in ticket costs. I believe we're already at the limit of what is acceptable, reasonable and affordable to the average person.

I've got a reasonably well paid job and I can afford my ticket no problem, but I care about those that can't. I've always been brought up with the thinking that we have to look out for our own and I'll stand by any City fan who vents their frustrations at increased ticket prices.

Some fans seem to only care about themselves and have laughed off increases as 'Well, it's only £15 a year!', but it's not about that. It's about the direction the ship is heading. We're on a staircase at the moment and at the top of that staircase are super expensive season tickets, each step we take is another step closer to the top and before you know it, time flies, and you're at the top of the stairs paying through the roof. That's why people are upset, not because of the 'low' amount of the increase, but because of the journey and direction the ticket prices are heading towards.

As a supporter it makes you feel like you're not important, that you're just a customer. When you see these mega TV deals there is absolutely no reason to increase ticket prices further. When you go to the match having paid so much money to be there, you EXPECT to be entertained, you EXPECT to win and the EXPECT to play well on each occasion, and that's hammered home by knowing that the players are on hundreds of thousands of pounds a week. That's what is killing the atmosphere in England. The expectation based on ticket prices and player wages, along with long time, local and die hard fans being slowly driven away by the cost.

The best atmosphere we've ever had at the Etihad was against Hamburg in the Europa League and it's no coincidence that the tickets for that game were a fiver each. It brought in loads of locals, people who can't usually afford it and it made people feel like they weren't just customers. Fans didn't sit on their hands demanding to be entertained because they'd paid through the roof, they came as fans having paid a nominal entrance fee and wanted to cheer the team on loudly because of that.

An IN TOUCH fan great post mate

 

[casserole of nonsense]

I don't see any difference between the concerns of City fans over this grab and those people who voted Brexit or Trump?

There comes a time when people feel nobody is actually listening to them anymore, simply because the elite feel they can just keep doing what the hell they like, without fear of consequences.

You missed the bit where the elite ignore or insult anyone who questions their elitist attitudes.

 

[cheddar404]

I honestly didn't know that some have had that level of increase. So nearly 100% increase in 10 years. Wow. 7% pa compounded. If mine had gone up that much I certainly wouldn't be happy.

I wouldn't be able to tell you which year it was but behind the goal lower tier used to be £350 and my South Stand seat for next year is £615 for gold.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

mines nearly doubled since 2011

I take it your wages haven't?

And yet the TV deal is worth £5bn more since 2011.

 

[mancityvstoke]

I take it your wages haven't?

And yet the TV deal is worth £5bn more since 2011.

exactly................It's not this £15 increase ...it's the slow increases over years and it's coming to a head....along with the fucking MATCH DAY EXPERIENCE