Ederson Moraes

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BlueDeadHead said:
Football Manager. People will mock me for it but they are incredibly accurate. More ratings than stats....but ratings based on stats.
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I wonder if Cherno Samba is available to replace Aguero? Football Manager ratings, jesus wept, do you work for Sky Sports News?
 
BigOscar said:
I wonder if Cherno Samba is available to replace Aguero? Football Manager ratings, jesus wept, do you work for Sky Sports News?
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Mock him if you want, half the premier league clubs use football manager's database as a scouting aid.
 
domalino said:
Mock him if you want, half the premier league clubs use football manager's database as a scouting aid.
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And Southampton signed that useless lad because his agent said he was George Weah's cousin, not all clubs are run by geniuses. Football Managers ratings are decided by amateur scouts, they aren't remotely reliable or accurate. Any club anything more than even the simplest of getting an opinion is batshit crazy. Saying someone is good at passing because they are on football manager is madness.

Fun fact, on Champ Manager 01/02 there was an excellent young Portuguese striker playing for Gouviea in the Portuguese third division called To Madeira, who would bang in the goals for any lower level team. In real life, he didn't exist. He was made up by Champ Managers regional scout who was planning a holiday to the island of Madeira. Any rating off a computer game should be taken with the largest pinch of salt imaginable
 
BigOscar said:
And Southampton signed that useless lad because his agent said he was George Weah's cousin, not all clubs are run by geniuses. Football Managers ratings are decided by amateur scouts, they aren't remotely reliable or accurate. Any club anything more than even the simplest of getting an opinion is batshit crazy. Saying someone is good at passing because they are on football manager is madness.

Fun fact, on Champ Manager 01/02 there was an excellent young Portuguese striker playing for Gouviea in the Portuguese third division called To Madeira, who would bang in the goals for any lower level team. In real life, he didn't exist. He was made up by Champ Managers regional scout who was planning a holiday to the island of Madeira. Any rating off a computer game should be taken with the largest pinch of salt imaginable
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Sorry. You are wrong.
 


If we are going for Semedo, Ederson might be affordable, as in the past teams have bought two players to fudge the numbers and get around clauses like Ederson's Rio Ave sell on.

Porto did that with Joao Moutinho & James Rodriguez in 2014 to minimise the amount Sporting got from their sell on clause on Moutinho.


I can't see us getting Ederson any other way to be honest, but with links with Victor Valdes now surfacing perhaps we've packed in Ederson completely already.
 
I can't see any move for Valdes affecting any move for a first choice keeper at all, he'd surely be just backup if we signed him.
 
domalino said:


If we are going for Semedo, Ederson might be affordable, as in the past teams have bought two players to fudge the numbers and get around clauses like Ederson's Rio Ave sell on.

Porto did that with Joao Moutinho & James Rodriguez in 2014 to minimise the amount Sporting got from their sell on clause on Moutinho.


I can't see us getting Ederson any other way to be honest, but with links with Victor Valdes now surfacing perhaps we've packed in Ederson completely already.
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That would be fantastic if we could get both. Bit what's all this talk about Barca being interested that I'm seeing :(
 
domalino said:


If we are going for Semedo, Ederson might be affordable, as in the past teams have bought two players to fudge the numbers and get around clauses like Ederson's Rio Ave sell on.

Porto did that with Joao Moutinho & James Rodriguez in 2014 to minimise the amount Sporting got from their sell on clause on Moutinho.


I can't see us getting Ederson any other way to be honest, but with links with Victor Valdes now surfacing perhaps we've packed in Ederson completely already.
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Mangala and Fernando.
 
domalino said:


If we are going for Semedo, Ederson might be affordable, as in the past teams have bought two players to fudge the numbers and get around clauses like Ederson's Rio Ave sell on.

Porto did that with Joao Moutinho & James Rodriguez in 2014 to minimise the amount Sporting got from their sell on clause on Moutinho.


I can't see us getting Ederson any other way to be honest, but with links with Victor Valdes now surfacing perhaps we've packed in Ederson completely already.
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If we went for Ederson and Semedo that would be 2 non homegrown in positions we have been linked with homegrown players. I've no problem with that but it does mean we would need to trim our 17 non homegrown somewhere. Especially if Navas and Toure are given extra years
 
domalino said:


If we are going for Semedo, Ederson might be affordable, as in the past teams have bought two players to fudge the numbers and get around clauses like Ederson's Rio Ave sell on.

Porto did that with Joao Moutinho & James Rodriguez in 2014 to minimise the amount Sporting got from their sell on clause on Moutinho.


I can't see us getting Ederson any other way to be honest, but with links with Victor Valdes now surfacing perhaps we've packed in Ederson completely already.
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So we sign Ederson for like £10mil so Rio Ave get £5mil and spend '£60mil' on Semedo?
 
blueparrot said:
If we went for Ederson and Semedo that would be 2 non homegrown in positions we have been linked with homegrown players. I've no problem with that but it does mean we would need to trim our 17 non homegrown somewhere. Especially if Navas and Toure are given extra years
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Not really, we've got 4 or 5 non-hg players leaving.

If Tosin re-signs, Roberts comes back or Maffeo gets used we won't need any more than 17 foreign players
 
domalino said:
Not really, we've got 4 or 5 non-hg players leaving.

If Tosin re-signs, Roberts comes back or Maffeo gets used we won't need any more than 17 foreign players
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The way I see the non homegrown squad next year , with Ederson and Semedo for arguments sake

Ederson, Bravo, Samedo, Kompany, Kolarov, Otamendi, New non hg left back, Fernandinho, Toure, New non hg cm, Silva, De bruyne, Gundogan, Aguero, New non hg att, Jesus, Sane.

That's 17 but leaves out Navas and leaves Kolarov covering cb and left back. Personally I'd be happy with that but would that give us enough in centre mid, and is there enough cover for Silva .
 
blueparrot said:
The way I see the non homegrown squad next year , with Ederson and Semedo for arguments sake

Ederson, Bravo, Samedo, Kompany, Kolarov, Otamendi, New non hg left back, Fernandinho, Toure, New non hg cm, Silva, De bruyne, Gundogan, Aguero, New non hg att, Jesus, Sane.

That's 17 but leaves out Navas and leaves Kolarov covering cb and left back. Personally I'd be happy with that but would that give us enough in centre mid, and is there enough cover for Silva .
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You've forgotten Delph and it doesn't look likely that Yaya will be staying at the moment. Garcia is u21 for league and European games next season as he's been here for two years and Mooy is a possible HG option. If Walker is the right back that gives us two free foreign spots to bring in cover for Silva and Gundogan. Personally I wouldn't have two foreign keepers, Gunn should be cup keeper which would give us room for another outfield player.
 
domalino said:


If we are going for Semedo, Ederson might be affordable, as in the past teams have bought two players to fudge the numbers and get around clauses like Ederson's Rio Ave sell on.

Porto did that with Joao Moutinho & James Rodriguez in 2014 to minimise the amount Sporting got from their sell on clause on Moutinho.


I can't see us getting Ederson any other way to be honest, but with links with Victor Valdes now surfacing perhaps we've packed in Ederson completely already.
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No they didn't.

It's one of those football myths like Aguero being a Liverpool fan.
 
aguero93:20 said:
You've forgotten Delph and it doesn't look likely that Yaya will be staying at the moment. Garcia is u21 for league and European games next season as he's been here for two years and Mooy is a possible HG option. If Walker is the right back that gives us two free foreign spots to bring in cover for Silva and Gundogan. Personally I wouldn't have two foreign keepers, Gunn should be cup keeper which would give us room for another outfield player.
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Delph is not a "non homegrown" player.
 
pudge said:
No they didn't.

It's one of those football myths like Aguero being a Liverpool fan.
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They did. They paid €25m for Joao Moutinho who was worth double that.

Or do you think Porto were just feeling charitable to sell one of their best players for a fraction of his worth?
 
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