Kyle Walker

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domalino said:
Sorry, I think that's just clichéd rubbish, an excuse for any player not working out, "oh he just couldn't hack the mental pressure, he's too weak".

It creates an environment which is suffocating, and gives new players no time to get their feet under the table. Yeah, some players might be able to take months of abuse and criticism constantly and not let it get to them, but others might not, and that doesn't mean they are bad players, or aren't good enough, it just means we've created a scenario in which everything is stacked against them and ultimately have lost out on a good player because of it.

Bravo is another example. He has managed the mental pressures of playing for Barcelona, winning trebles, captaining his country to Copa America titles, but he arrives here under a complete media storm because he's the most expensive 33 year old ever and even worse, he's not Joe Hart, his first mistake is front page news for a week and he naturally takes a huge hit of confidence.

Bravo isn't a shit keeper, he was plenty good enough to play for Barca, but he arrived into a scenario where absolutely anything except instant perfection was going to be instant failure, and the more often we do that the more often we're going to see big money signings fail because sometimes they'll not hit the ground running for whatever reason.
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Really???

Weak.
 
Fans who don't care about how much a player cost need to stop whinning about fans who do. We get it you don't care. We don't whine about the fact that you don't care so stop whining about the fact that we do.

It is insane that Sandro at over 50 million seems acceptable and Walker at 50 million also. These are disgusting #s. And can folks stop saying its the market, coz it isn't.

There are just 3 teams who buy at those prices, City, PSG and United. Everyone else seems to have concluded defenders shouldn't cost midfield and attacking prices.

at 50 and 60 million respectively, Walker and Sandro will become the 2 most expensibe defensive transfer in History. Sandro and Walker? Really?

Talk about an absence of imagination.
 
I mean, Sandro is a consensus top three fullback in football and Walker is often cited as the best RB in the PL, comes from a direct rival and has English tariff. Throw on top that neither are available from selling clubs and that City have to pay a premium for being City and yeah, it's expensive.

We can fuck around and buy cheaper quite easily, but maybe, just maybe, these are the players Pep Guardiola has identified for his squad. If so, the club have an obligation to go the extra mile to get them.

In doing so, ok, they'll ruffle a few feathers of Blues who reckon we are the new rags or think they can find similar or better players for less. But honestly, this fannying around has gone on too long. We've got the money, we've got the manager, now let's get him his squad and start winning.
 
Dax777 said:
Fans who don't care about how much a player cost need to stop whinning about fans who do. We get it you don't care. We don't whine about the fact that you don't care so stop whining about the fact that we do.

It is insane that Sandro at over 50 million seems acceptable and Walker at 50 million also. These are disgusting #s. And can folks stop saying its the market, coz it isn't.

There are just 3 teams who buy at those prices, City, PSG and United. Everyone else seems to have concluded defenders shouldn't cost midfield and attacking prices.

at 50 and 60 million respectively, Walker and Sandro will become the 2 most expensibe defensive transfer in History. Sandro and Walker? Really?

Talk about an absence of imagination.
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Apart from Sandro, is there any LB out there we can get who is as good as Sandro ?
 
Akiva said:
I mean, Sandro is a consensus top three fullback in football and Walker is often cited as the best RB in the PL, comes from a direct rival and has English tariff. Throw on top that neither are available from selling clubs and that City have to pay a premium for being City and yeah, it's expensive.

We can fuck around and buy cheaper quite easily, but maybe, just maybe, these are the players Pep Guardiola has identified for his squad. If so, the club have an obligation to go the extra mile to get them.

In doing so, ok, they'll ruffle a few feathers of Blues who reckon we are the new rags or think they can find similar or better players for less. But honestly, this fannying around has gone on too long. We've got the money, we've got the manager, now let's get him his squad and start winning.
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Sir, well said, well said.
 
Akiva said:
I mean, Sandro is a consensus top three fullback in football and Walker is often cited as the best RB in the PL, comes from a direct rival and has English tariff. Throw on top that neither are available from selling clubs and that City have to pay a premium for being City and yeah, it's expensive.

We can fuck around and buy cheaper quite easily, but maybe, just maybe, these are the players Pep Guardiola has identified for his squad. If so, the club have an obligation to go the extra mile to get them.

In doing so, ok, they'll ruffle a few feathers of Blues who reckon we are the new rags or think they can find similar or better players for less. But honestly, this fannying around has gone on too long. We've got the money, we've got the manager, now let's get him his squad and start winning.
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Correct.
 
Akiva said:
I mean, Sandro is a consensus top three fullback in football and Walker is often cited as the best RB in the PL, comes from a direct rival and has English tariff. Throw on top that neither are available from selling clubs and that City have to pay a premium for being City and yeah, it's expensive.

We can fuck around and buy cheaper quite easily, but maybe, just maybe, these are the players Pep Guardiola has identified for his squad. If so, the club have an obligation to go the extra mile to get them.

In doing so, ok, they'll ruffle a few feathers of Blues who reckon we are the new rags or think they can find similar or better players for less. But honestly, this fannying around has gone on too long. We've got the money, we've got the manager, now let's get him his squad and start winning.
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Why Walker is a no brainer too is because the money spent on him will not be re-invested into the squad. It'll go towards the stadium debt.

So regardless of fee, we are weakening a rival.
 
£60m (€70m) is the kind of money you spend on players like Belotti, Alexis Sanchez, Di Maria, Verratti, not on Kyle Walker. You don't even realize the ramifications of this for the club and on Pep's future at the club. Or just how ridiculous even this discussion is. Chelsea won the league with Victor Moses as their wingback!

Get Semedo or Emerson Palmieri from Roma for £30m, both players can play both RB and LB. Get Fabinho who can play both as DM and RB.
 
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rollingnakedinmoney said:
£60m (€70m) is the kind of money you spend on players like Belotti, Alexis Sanchez, Di Maria, VeYou don't even realize the ramifications of this for the club and on Pep's future at the club.
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Who are you talking to?

Nobody here is signing Kyle Walker. City, under the direction of Pep, is signing (has signed, as per Jon) Kyle Walker.

We don't know how much he is going to go for. Could be £40m, could be £50m, I'd be surprised if it's as much as £60m, but Pep wants Walker and the club is getting him his man at RB.

We've waited fucking years for Pep and planned an entire global rebrand around him. We've got arguably the largest squad refresh since takeover coming up under Pep's guidance. And if you were Txiki, you'd be saying "sorry Pep, Walker's too expensive cause he's English lol. Have this kid Emerson Palmieri instead, good luck!"

If ever the club was going to start spending money on proven talent, rather than on plug-ins or projects, it's this summer.
 
Akiva said:
Who are you talking to?

Nobody here is signing Kyle Walker. City, under the direction of Pep, is signing (has signed, as per Jon) Kyle Walker.

We don't know how much he is going to go for. Could be £40m, could be £50m, I'd be surprised if it's as much as £60m, but Pep wants Walker and the club is getting him his man at RB.

We've waited fucking years for Pep and planned an entire global rebrand around him. We've got arguably the largest squad refresh since takeover coming up under Pep's guidance. And if you were Txiki, you'd be saying "sorry Pep, Walker's too expensive cause he's English lol. Have this kid Emerson Palmieri instead, good luck!"

If ever the club was going to start spending money on proven talent, rather than on plug-ins or projects, it's this summer.
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I agree with what you are saying but what if one day Pep asks for Neymar and Messi at £300m? Is Txiki obliged to bring them to the club too regardless of the budget? People are worried about the fee because it might have an effect on our other transfers. At the end of the day, we don't have an unlimited budget.
 
roy.or.r said:
I agree with what you are saying but what if one day Pep asks for Neymar and Messi at £300m? Is Txiki obliged to bring them to the club too regardless of the budget? People are worried about the fee because it might have an effect on our other transfers. At the end of the day, we don't have an unlimited budget.
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Pep isn't asking for Neymar and or Messi, as far as we know. He's been shown to be prudent in the extreme in these matters, ie, pulling City out of the race for Pogshit because the price was way too high.

The whole "it might have an effect on other transfers" malarkey is overblown. Kylian Mbappe at north of £100m will have an effect on other transfers. An extra 10-20m on Walker than on an equivalent RB is a drop in the ocean for a club with a potential budget of £200m and a number of players who will be sold on.

Again, if Pep wants Walker then the club will get him Walker. Seems they already have.
 
Akiva said:
Pep isn't asking for Neymar and or Messi, as far as we know. He's been shown to be prudent in the extreme in these matters, ie, pulling City out of the race for Pogshit because the price was way too high.

The whole "it might have an effect on other transfers" malarkey is overblown. Kylian Mbappe at north of £100m will have an effect on other transfers. An extra 10-20m on Walker than on an equivalent RB is a drop in the ocean for a club with a potential budget of £200m and a number of players who will be sold on.

Again, if Pep wants Walker then the club will get him Walker. Seems they already have.
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Fair point. I just hope Pep knows what he is doing. This is a big season coming up for us and that Bravo transfer still haunts me.
 
roy.or.r said:
I agree with what you are saying but what if one day Pep asks for Neymar and Messi at £300m? Is Txiki obliged to bring them to the club too regardless of the budget? People are worried about the fee because it might have an effect on our other transfers. At the end of the day, we don't have an unlimited budget.
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You seem to be under the impression that Pep and Txiki don't speak to each other except when Pep goes "Get me..."
Pep will know exactly how much the budget is and they'll have discussed who they want to spend it on and how much they're prepared to spend on each of them
 
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