General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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Damocles said:
Let's say that we have a law that's primary objective is to jail all paedophiles.

The way the legislation says we should go about this, is to knock on every single door in the country, ask if somebody is a paedophile and if they say yes, nick them. The estimated cost for the Police to undertake this task is £30bn a year.

Are you suggesting you wouldn't vote against that? I mean, you wouldn't vote against jailing paedophiles would you?
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Dost think it would cost £30 billion a year to give police greater powers to have access to monitor suspected internet terrorists? so seems a strange analogy to me and i dont think you have answered my question. I have just been speaking to my local corner shop guy - a great English Born Msulim who told me age 43 years and having lived in Lester, Burnley and Manchester in his words hardcore Asian Muslim areas he has never seen extremism in any mosque. i don't doubt him for one second. I asked him what the answer was - he said firstly get out of Syria and other middle eastern countries and come done hard on extremists and have internet powers to stop radicalisation etc. As he said it could have been his dughters at the concert and he wants answers to teh problems just as much as i do. I think the answer is education combined with greater support for our intelligence services.
 
worsleyweb said:
Dost think it would cost £30 billion a year to give police greater powers to have access to monitor suspected internet terrorists? so seems a strange analogy to me and i dont think you have answered my question
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I have directly answered your question. You've got caught up in a semantic.

Your question was about how can someone refuse to vote for the IP Bill and still be anti-terrorist.

The response was to ask how you could vote against a completely pointless anti-paedophile Bill but still be anti-paedophile.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Let's bring back Blair shall we ?
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Of course not, he'd only landslide the election. Instead we should continue bringing more barely electable leaders to the table and hoping a quirk of Police funding in a terrorist attack goes our way so we only lose by a lot rather than a shit-ton.
 
Damocles said:
I have directly answered your question. You've got caught up in a semantic.

Your question was about how can someone refuse to vote for the IP Bill and still be anti-terrorist.

The response was to ask how you could vote against a completely pointless anti-paedophile Bill but still be anti-paedophile.
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OK if you believe you have answered fair enough - i think he is disgrace voting against giving our police and security services greater powers over internet analysis of suspected terrorists. Not bringing costs into it.
 
Ban-jani said:
Corbyn is against us engaging IS abroad. He's a fucking danger and needs to be stopped.
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The issue is about tackling IS at home. How do you tackle them abroad without intervening in sovereign countries and unsettling a region, like we have been doing, without any success? IS are not a state, they are not really anything tangible. It is a concept, an ideology.
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
The issue is about tackling IS at home. How do you tackle them abroad without intervening in sovereign countries and unsettling a region, like we have been doing, without any success? IS are not a state, they are not really anything tangible. It is a concept, an ideology.
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We're working with the Iraqi army. It's not as though we're intervening where we're not wanted.

Listen to a single thing the Kurds and/or an Iraqi general says and it's easy to realise the part we can play.
 
Ban-jani said:
Corbyn is against us engaging IS abroad. He's a fucking danger and needs to be stopped.
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How do you combat something effectively with violence dipshit. You hear glib stuff like this all the time. "we must eradicate this death cult" etc. Isis are like the thing from the 5th element movie.. the more you hit it the stronger it gets. How about looking long term. It's ridiculously simplistic and shows no appreciation for human psychology to suggest that ideas can be simply bombed away.
 
KenTheLandlord said:
Unfortunately it is the nail on head. Should have been sacked but no.
Support tories support terrorism. Fact.
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Well your logic as usual is flawed for the following reasons

Being anti corbyn doesn't make anyone automatically a Tory
Just because corbyn and his sidekick are IRA sympathisers doesn't mean the Labour Party is. ditto this woman who most haven't heard of


It does seem laughable that in defence of balaclava man the best that some can muster is he ain't Tony Blair or a bitch of a Tory mp.

We all look forward to hearing more of his qualities.
 
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