General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%

  • Total voters
    656
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All I've learnt this morning is that may won't answer anything in detail, after saying on marr she could increase VAT tells peston she won't, the pensions are fair game though.

Also that Robert Peston is feckin useless when it comes to tough questioning, the shows a waste of space.

Time for sunday politics with it's predominently right wing pannel, but at least gives all those interviewed a though line
 
And others will see that 'helping the poor and needy' does not mean keeping them on benefits and handouts, reliant on the Government. Both sides want to help the disadvantaged in society, they just have different methods to attain it. Which one benefits people more comes from your own perspective, it doesn't mean that either means you hate the poor or are actively seeking to destroy them as some have claimed. I've voted Labour for years, but these policies of theirs just leave people dependent on others and that's no way to live. I say this as some who is on the minimum wage, in fact I don't think i've ever earned more than £11,000 a year in my life.

As long as there are employers like Sir Phillip Green and Mike Ashley there will be people on benefits and in work. The biggest benefits spongers are employers who pay employee's an insufficient amount to live on whilst the board and share holders cream off millions. If they were made to do so the benefits bill could be slashed and the real malingerers identified and targeted. Yes that would mean a lower tax take but with fewer benefits to pay the treasury doesn't need so much. And I am sure Sir Phillip can make do with one less yacht and Mike with one or two fewer big wads of cash in his pocket...
 
Well there is a clear choice in this election between may and corbyn. One constantly talks of helping the poor and most vulnerable in society, of protecting the nhs and public services. The other doesnt. People can vote for their own wallet or to protect the needy.
When there's little wallet to vote for, it makes the choice easier.

Most Labour voters are also voting for their own wallet to be fair. They may pretend that they are voting altruistically but they aren't.
 
All I've learnt this morning is that may won't answer anything in detail, after saying on marr she could increase VAT tells peston she won't, the pensions are fair game though.

Also that Robert Peston is feckin useless when it comes to tough questioning, the shows a waste of space.

Time for sunday politics with it's predominently right wing pannel, but at least gives all those interviewed a though line
I strongly suggest you don't vote for her then.
 
As long as there are employers like Sir Phillip Green and Mike Ashley there will be people on benefits and in work. The biggest benefits spongers are employers who pay employee's an insufficient amount to live on whilst the board and share holders cream off millions. If they were made to do so the benefits bill could be slashed and the real malingerers identified and targeted. Yes that would mean a lower tax take but with fewer benefits to pay the treasury doesn't need so much. And I am sure Sir Phillip can make do with one less yacht and Mike with one or two fewer big wads of cash in his pocket...
I agree to some extent that companies that don't pay tax should invest their profits into their staffs wages, yet Labour want to cream that money to pay for public services instead so workers don't benefit anyway. Labour are the ones who made it easier for businesses like theirs to introduce the minimum wage to their workforce, lowering the average wage, not 'protecting' them. When it was brought in my wages were reduced to the national minimum wage because it was now legal to do so. Most businesses did the same so when we said we weren't happy we were told to either accept it or find another job. I left and now every job in my sector and skill range only pays minimum wage. I have mechanical engineering experience, carpenter experience and I was only worth minimum wage to those years of Labour Government. But that's my own personal experience.

Green and Ashley can do whatever they like; it's their businesses and it's their money. You disagree with their practice, then don't shop there or support their business. But then what happens? People lose jobs to cover their companies loss of earnings, so 'attacking' them by making them pay more tax doesn't help workers on the bottom rung, it makes them lose their jobs. Don't get me wrong, Ashley and Green are c*nts, but that was due to the inhumane work practices that they forced their staff to work under, the impossible expectations that could result in instant dismissal, working unpaid hours for minor discrepencies etc, but that's nothing to do with not being paid enough. That was going on for years and Labour did nothing, only until it became profitable to increase their public profile which was waning and even then it was done under a Conservative government that action was taken.

Green and Ashley will still want to retain their high incomes; forcing them to pay more means they will do whatever they can to keep it even if it means getting rid of people in their employ. You're not helping us, you're hindering us. Fight for fair treatment in the workplace, yes, but saying these companies should be paying us more wages when Labour were the ones who made it legal to pay us a minimum amount in the first place smacks of hypocrisy.

Also, what is Labour obsession with zero-contract hours? They are a god send for some people in my place, they couldn't do their university degrees without them, because otherwise they are 'forced' to work their minimum contracted hours when they need the time off to do dissertations and whatnot. People ask for them and most companies are flexible enough to provide them. It's an example of how far removed from reality Labour are with workers and labourers. We don't want zero hours contracts banned, they're useful to us!
 
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And others will see that 'helping the poor and needy' does not mean keeping them on benefits and handouts, reliant on the Government. Both sides want to help the disadvantaged in society, they just have different methods to attain it. Which one benefits people more comes from your own perspective, it doesn't mean that either means you hate the poor or are actively seeking to destroy them as some have claimed. I've voted Labour for years, but these policies of theirs just leave people dependent on others and that's no way to live. I say this as some who is on the minimum wage, in fact I don't think i've ever earned more than £11,000 a year in my life.
Ok i get that but i think its too far the wrong way and the tories will only make it worse. Nurses using foodbanks is nothing to do with benefit scroungers, corbyn is the first labour leader in many a year to promise to deal with this.
 
When there's little wallet to vote for, it makes the choice easier.

Most Labour voters are also voting for their own wallet to be fair. They may pretend that they are voting altruistically but they aren't.
Can only speak for myself. I like what corbyn stands for, he's not perfect but he represents my values far more than may or fallon.
 
Ok i get that but i think its too far the wrong way and the tories will only make it worse. Nurses using foodbanks is nothing to do with benefit scroungers, corbyn is the first labour leader in many a year to promise to deal with this.
I earn around £650 a month on minimum living wage of £7.50 an hour. My rent is £250 a month and monthly expenses range from the same amount. I aim to put £50 a month into savings and have built up a modest 'security blanket' in case things go wrong. I own a modest motorcycle, or cycle to work to save money and improve my fitness. My hours in work vary from 12-30 a week dependent on how busy we are or can accept more hours if needed.

I have never required foodbanks.

I've never even felt threatened to have to use foodbanks. I do not understand how people can get themselves into such a position where they need to use them and I have tried to find out. I'm starting to think that like the NHS foodbanks are being use to guilt the public into voting Labour without addressing each persons individual circumstances as to how they've gotten into such financial strife that requires them to do so.
 
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