General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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A quick google search shows working tax credits cost 30 billion a year in 2015. I would imagine it would cost less than that but would still be a huge number.
 
Fallon now re-imagining what Corbyn said in the interview and even last Friday and claiming h said things he just didn't say... period.
 
Damocles said:
In my view all this campaign is showing is how bad a leader Corbyn is.

All the polls pretty much say that people trust Labour to look after their families more than the Tories. People just like the manifesto more than the Tories. They are split on his defence strategy.

Yet he's still somewhere around 10 points behind. Every leadership poll puts him 20 or 30 points back.

This tells me that a proper centre left leader with a Blair level of charisma and political skill would have had a Thatcher like landslide here
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This is pure fantasy. This election has wibbled your brain mate.

Had may not tried to grab the centre ground with her claim manifesto and stuck with continuity plus hard brexit she would still be 20 points ahead.
 
Cheesy said:
@bluethrunthru and @hilts

That's the first time I've heard anything about subsidies for small businesses (unless I've missed something) so it obviously hasn't been costed.
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http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115103489714/labour-will-prioritise-tax-cuts-for-small-firms

http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-election-manifesto-winners-and-losers-glance

http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/16/labou...y-policies-for-general-election-2017-6628153/

https://www.tax.org.uk/media-centre...on-2017-corporation-tax-and-income-tax-higher

Maybe you have been too busy reading the right wing propaganda to study the facts and missed this part of the fully costed Labour Manifesto
 
Gelsons Dad said:
This is pure fantasy. This election has wibbled your brain mate.

Had may not tried to grab the centre ground with her claim manifesto and stuck with continuity plus hard brexit she would still be 20 points ahead.
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I think you're both right.

May has fucked up so utterly royally, if Labour had a credible leader, I think they'd be in front now. And that they are not, is clearly down to Corbyn and his gross unpopularity in the public at large.

But had May not fucked up, then they would still have a big lead, no matter who was at the Labour helm.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
This is pure fantasy. This election has wibbled your brain mate.

Had may not tried to grab the centre ground with her claim manifesto and stuck with continuity plus hard brexit she would still be 20 points ahead.
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How do you explain the popularity of the Labour manifesto in this world view?

And by definition whoever plays the centre ground best always wins.
 
law74 said:
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115103489714/labour-will-prioritise-tax-cuts-for-small-firms

http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-election-manifesto-winners-and-losers-glance

http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/16/labou...y-policies-for-general-election-2017-6628153/

https://www.tax.org.uk/media-centre...on-2017-corporation-tax-and-income-tax-higher

Maybe you have been too busy reading the right wing propaganda to study the facts and missed this part of the fully costed Labour Manifesto
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There's no need to read propaganda - the Labour party's policies are totally unaffordable and unrealistic, as they ALWAYS are. Same old, same old. The only Labour leader who ever broke from that tradition is the one you hate: Tony Blair. Other than him we could just rename Labour the "wreck the economy party". Blair did too btw, it just took him longer.
 
 
Chippy_boy said:
I think you're both right.

May has fucked up so utterly royally, if Labour had a credible leader, I think they'd be in front now. And that they are not, is clearly down to Corbyn and his gross unpopularity in the public at large.

But had May not fucked up, then they would still have a big lead, no matter who was at the Labour helm.
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No one can pass the social media test of being a 'credible leader' now days - Corbyn is a good leader in my opinion
 
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