General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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brass neck said:
I love the way the arguments against Labours plans ALWAYS come down to well how is it going to be paid for. We are the 5th richest country in the world. We can afford:

92 billion per annum I'm corporate benefits

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/07/corporate-welfare-a-93bn-handshake

We can afford an unusable nuclear arsenal which we don't have the red button for (but don't worry Donald trump has it in his desk)

We can afford countless pointless military interventions

We can afford to bail out banks that gambled with our money and lost

We can afford to give MPs an 11% pay rise as nurses take a cut

We can afford a highly expensive royal family some of which we pay and wouldn't know them if we passed them in the street

We can afford a 15 billion pounds new tube line across London because they're short of transport options

We can afford to pull out of the common market because no deal apparently is better than a bad deal

But

The prospect of investing in our young, investing in our health, investing in much needed infrastructure across all of Britain, bringing our public services out of the hands of carpet baggers, investing in arts, in sport in looking after our elderly, looking after our disabled, investing in housing stock so 30 year olds an live away from mum and dad ffs, investing in the technology of the future is an OUTRAGE.

We need to get a grip. We are being had. Only the blind can't see that
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You're deluded.
 
brass neck said:
I would happily pay 20 quid a week more in tax if it paid for the progressive policies outlined by Labour. It would make a life a squeeze for me but I'd pay it for the greater good. What is wrong with these people on 80k plus a year. Why do they not take pride in making it possible to improve the lot of everyone in the country. It should be an honour to be selected. A marker of how well they've done in life to be able to make a difference. That's the problem these days. No sense of pride in the strivers!
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Your argument is completely flawed because it fails to consider a vitally important thing: how much are the people on £80k paying already. You make it sound like they aren't paying anything whilst you and your fellow heroes are prepared to take all the burden. Where is your sense of balance?

Would you be prepared to pay an extra, say £100 a week? What about £200? No?

OK, so we've established that there's a limit to how much you think it's fair for you to have to pay. See where this is going? Someone earning £80,000 might think that paying £496 PER WEEK in tax, is paying enough already. You may think not, but it's a personal judgement is to what is fair, and how much is too much.
 
The perfect fumble said:
Oh, I agree, if ever an economy needed some Keynesian impetus it's ours. May knows revenue is going to tank but is so frightened of the neoliberals round her throat she can only think cuts, which will depress the economy further and so the spiral downwards will go on. Her no deal is better than a bad deal plays well with the morons but if she were serious and actually did it, the capital flight and the jobs that would go with it, would see coppers on the streets containing riots in no time. A few thoughtful Tories know this, but they are powerless in a party gripped of neoliberal arseholes happy to have cornered the market in xenophobia and little englandism.

All this bullshit might win her the election, despite her appalling campaign, but whatever the outcome, politically she's a dead woman walking.
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you should stand for election, it sounds as if you know the answer to everything and can spot a moron at a great distance,
answer me one question please, have you ever run a business?
 
JULES said:
you should stand for election, it sounds as if you know the answer to everything and can spot a moron at a great distance,
answer me one question please, have you ever run a business?
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Looking forward to this one.
 
JULES said:
you should stand for election, it sounds as if you know the answer to everything and can spot a moron at a great distance,
answer me one question please, have you ever run a business?
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I think we all know the answer to this one.

Actually, he wil probably say yes, even though he clearly hasn't.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Your argument is completely flawed because it fails to consider a vitally important thing: how much are the people on £80k paying already. You make it sound like they aren't paying anything whilst you and your fellow heroes are prepared to take all the burden. Where is your sense of balance?

Would you be prepared to pay an extra, say £100 a week? What about £200? No?

OK, so we've established that there's a limit to how much you think it's fair for you to have to pay. See where this is going? Someone earning £80,000 might think that paying £496 PER WEEK in tax, is paying enough already. You may think not, but it's a personal judgement is to what is fair, and how much is too much.
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Just to point it out, someone on 80k a year will pay no more than they are now, someone on more than 80K will pay an extra 5p ( from what i've seen thats the figure ) per pound over that.

While there is no doubt that people live within there means, You earn 80k, a million, 10 million, you will live within those means, so any additional hit will be a hit. And no matter where that theshold is, people will complain.
 
SWP's back said:
I thought I was naming your old club in Nottingham.
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