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If that doesnt work?
Best of 3....5.....7?
Rock, paper, scissors?
Draw straws?
We are leaving the EU and the sooner everyone accepts that and gets behind the negotiations the better.
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If that doesnt work?
Best of 3....5.....7?
Rock, paper, scissors?
Draw straws?
We are leaving the EU and the sooner everyone accepts that and gets behind the negotiations the better.
smudgedj
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The government have already argued in court that Article 50 can be reversed, the supreme court said it cant.It is possible according to the Vienna Convention, it might take another vote in parliament though.
The government have already argued in court Article 50 can be reversed, the supreme court said it cant.
Can you post that judgment. I can only find one that says that an Act of Parliament was required to authorise ministers to give Notice of the decision of the UK to withdraw from the European Union.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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Serious question, and I'm not questioning the rights and wrongs of Brexit but; is there a 'number' beyond which you wouldn't go? If all economic indicators were suggesting that we'd 'save' £10B in payments to the EU but we'd lose £XB, where would that number be before it was a bad idea or is it more political for you and you are not bothered about the economics?If that doesnt work?
Best of 3....5.....7?
Rock, paper, scissors?
Draw straws?
We are leaving the EU and the sooner everyone accepts that and gets behind the negotiations the better.
gordondaviesmoustache
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I haven't noticed much talk of the EU being on the verge of collapse being talked of late....
Serious question, and I'm not questioning the rights and wrongs of Brexit but; is there a 'number' beyond which you wouldn't go? If all economic indicators were suggesting that we'd 'save' £10B in payments to the EU but we'd lose £XB, where would that number be before it was a bad idea or is it more political for you and you are not bothered about the economics?
If we could validate the cost of leaving and staying, I would go with what was the cheapest. This evaluation would also have to include the costs of the job losses estimated and the family's we would have to support.
Cheadle_hulmeBlue
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McDonnell rules out Labour trying to keep UK in single market ( guardian/Peston interview)
Q: Could Labour support staying in the single market?
McDonnell says he cannot see that being on the table. Labour supports a “jobs-first Brexit”, he says.
Q: So you would back Theresa May in taking us out of the single market?
McDonnell says Labour wants to respect the results of the referendum. Staying in the single market would not honour that, he says.
Q: Could Labour support staying in the single market?
McDonnell says he cannot see that being on the table. Labour supports a “jobs-first Brexit”, he says.
Q: So you would back Theresa May in taking us out of the single market?
McDonnell says Labour wants to respect the results of the referendum. Staying in the single market would not honour that, he says.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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Of course he does. There might well be another GE and he needs to keep the position of the Labour Party as fuzzy as possible.....McDonnell rules out Labour trying to keep UK in single market ( guardian/Peston interview)
Q: Could Labour support staying in the single market?
McDonnell says he cannot see that being on the table. Labour supports a “jobs-first Brexit”, he says.
Q: So you would back Theresa May in taking us out of the single market?
McDonnell says Labour wants to respect the results of the referendum. Staying in the single market would not honour that, he says.
Well said - it is clear this is a CITY forum - so many seem to be quick to find fault with our team.No more crass than 100 billion divorce threat.
If you are not prepared to walk away from a deal you will always get fucked.
It has been the EU that has for many months been setting out how they are going to play hard ball and bringing forward an agenda that is akin to them having their cake, eating it and a full tray in the oven.
We have needed to have the option to face-off with the EU rather than just roll over.
Anyway - we are where we are - and it was all avoidable
Its a crass negotiating tactic. That is my point, we need trade and should have been saying lets work together to improve the lot for all of us.
She just didnt need to make such a big deal of it. It was something she could have intimated to the EU negotiators, but didnt need to be broadcast from the roof tops. By making it so public she increased the chances of it happening, since any deal that included any compromises, no matter how sensible, would have been seen as a bad deal by many in her party. Her public position should have been that she was confident of securing a very good deal for the UK.
She had an absolute responsibility to ensure that the UK left the EU. But, given that the public were split on the subject of the UK's future relationship, she also had a responsibility to at least try to forge a relationship that both leavers and remainers could live with. As PM it was her duty to try to find a consensus solution. She might have failed in that attempt but she wasnt even prepared to try. Which seems to have come back to bite her on the bum.
Tim of the Oak
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I haven't noticed much talk of the EU being on the verge of collapse being talked of late....
Some of of the 27 will be glad to see the back of us. I was chatting to some Belgiums who thought trade with the UK was nigh on irrelevant to their economy.
Len Rum
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carbon copy: mcfc1632.I haven't noticed much talk of the EU being on the verge of collapse being talked of late....
Len Rum
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This is Brexit.Well said - it is clear this is a CITY forum - so many seem to be quick to find fault with our team.
It has been the EU that has for many months been setting out how they are going to play hard ball and bringing forward an agenda that is akin to them having their cake, eating it and a full tray in the oven.
We have needed to have the option to face-off with the EU rather than just roll over.
Anyway - we are where we are - and it was all avoidable
Your Brexit.
And it's all falling apart.
Gloriously.
This is Brexit.
Your Brexit.
And it's all falling apart.
Gloriously.
And there we go again, the communist wanker once again confirming he wants the UK to fail as a country.
Blue Whale
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Nah, he's just saying it as it is. To vote to leave you took a massive gamble on the unknown. It's you muppets that gambled and it's on your heads if the UK fails spectacularly.And there we go again, the communist wanker once again confirming he wants the UK to fail as a country.
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Nah, he's just saying it as it is. To vote to leave you took a massive gamble on the unknown. It's you muppets that gambled and it's on your heads if the UK fails spectacularly.
But they voted to make Britain great again!!! Whatever the f*ck that meant.
Nah, he's just saying it as it is. To vote to leave you took a massive gamble on the unknown. It's you muppets that gambled and it's on your heads if the UK fails spectacularly.
I voted remain you fucking muppet.
But they voted to make Britain great again!!! Whatever the f*ck that meant.
Maybe they thought democracy should be confined to our sovereign nation? Maybe just a thought
You've got campaign slogans mixed up with the US presidential election too.
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