Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

Not related directly to the above, but....

SSC, Manchester.

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Great Ancoats Street Retail Park.

Some kind of rig set up in the carpark at the Argos end this morning, ground tests maybe?

I'm also hearing an ASDA whisper again.

Don't know how true and accurate.

Trying to get some more info.
 
A bit of imagination from our owners and their Architects could create something similar on the Etihad Campus.

Superb!

SSC, London projects thread.

Credit to SE9.

Gasholders London | King's Cross N1C[/SIZE]

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505188

Official website: http://gasholderslondon.co.uk/



Location

  • Address: Coal Drops Yard, London N1C
  • London borough: Camden
  • Station: King's Cross St Pancras
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Project facts

  • Developer: Argent
  • Architect: Wilkinson Eyre
  • Floors: 12 | 9 | 8
  • Homes: 144
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This weekend at the Gasholders London site, photos by potto:

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A nit of imagination from our owners and their Architects could create something similar on the campus.

Superb!

SSC, London projects thread.

Credit to SE9.

Gasholders London | King's Cross N1C[/SIZE]

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505188

Official website: http://gasholderslondon.co.uk/



Location

  • Address: Coal Drops Yard, London N1C
  • London borough: Camden
  • Station: King's Cross St Pancras
    14px-National_Rail_logo.svg.png
    12px-Underground.svg.png
Project facts

  • Developer: Argent
  • Architect: Wilkinson Eyre
  • Floors: 12 | 9 | 8
  • Homes: 144
oWSaH0O.jpg


This weekend at the Gasholders London site, photos by potto:

FkQECaI.jpg


qewvmPN.jpg


UaoTXnO.jpg


1nmZjb0.jpg

Not. A massive fan of the idea of turning them into apartments but those buildings look awesome.

I wonder if you could make it into a smaller venue for concerts/exhibitions - another reason for people to come to the collar site basically.
 
Not. A massive fan of the idea of turning them into apartments but those buildings look awesome.

I wonder if you could make it into a smaller venue for concerts/exhibitions - another reason for people to come to the collar site basically.

Could do something like the London Roundhouse?
 
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The drum below is much more architecturally pleasing to the eye than the two we've inherited..the pic of the examples in berlin and dublin are also grander
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This weekend at the Gasholders London site, photos by potto:

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qewvmPN.jpg


UaoTXnO.jpg


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I have thought for a long time that the gas holders would be ideal to convert into multi storey car parks, allowing more of the existing car parks to be converted into better money generating destinations
 
I have thought for a long time that the gas holders would be ideal to convert into multi storey car parks, allowing more of the existing car parks to be converted into better money generating destinations

You would get really dizzy going in & coming out, if you were on the top floor.
 
Anyone know what's happening with the store in town - doesnt look like the present one will reopen - its stripped but it says New Store coming soon - wonder whether we will go for something more high profile - to push the brand.
 
You would get really dizzy going in & coming out, if you were on the top floor.

I'd expect one of those car parks where you throw your keys to someone, they park it for you, have it valeted and its ready at the kerb side for you to drive off - 10 minutes before the game ends!
 
Sorry if posted (the pdf seems to be dated Feb 17) but I got a letter through the post today with a link to this where it's got a detailed pdf if anyone wants to look:

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/downloads/download/6702/eastlands_regeneration_framework

An interesting read but very much focussed on what all involved would like to happen rather than what is happening. The document has a lot of repetition in it and reads very much like a prospectus but if all the involved parties are successful this vision will create an exciting future for East Manchester. Reading through the sections on academic opportunities sounded like an appeal for organisations to consider something similar to the Nike facility in the USA or possibly a Manchester version of Loughborough. No significant City developments although there is a reference to possibly having to relocate or redevelop the car parks to the north of the ground where commercial development is the allocated activity. A reference to multideck car parks does not specify if this is intended for the commercial enterprise's alone or match day as well. I couldn't think of anything worse than getting out of a higher deck after a game, we would have fans leaving at half time to beat th he rush.
 
Interesting. Some of the matters in this document have been discussed in the Manchester Evening News before but I haven't seen the document itself. It's expressed to be a draft for consultation so if they're now sending out letters about it, presumably the public consultation has started.

These types of documents are always aspirational and short on detail, and inevitably not everything in them comes to pass. Nonetheless, the Campus, the Beswick Hub and the sixth-form college from previous versions of the Eastlands Regeneration Framework have become a reality. Discussions have been ongoing with MMU and other parties for several years about the possibility of some kind of sports university at the Campus, so I suspect this is already well past appealing to people to consider something. I believe they'll have quite a definite idea of the facility they want to create and people lined up to help create it. Of course, making it happen is still another matter and could involve substantial challenges.

What's clear is that they see the educational development as key to stimulating further development on the collar site and possibly the north car parks. Any announcement about the initial stage of the latter would seem unlikely to precede the announcement of the university, but perhaps some new sports and commercial facilities (an arena and conferencing space, perhaps) might be built concurrently with the educational facility.

I see that they haven't completely rowed back on the 'leisure and tourism destination' aspiration. There's a reference to "successful destination leisure and tourism attractions" that "internationally distinctive in content and scale". Notably less effusive language, however. The prospect of operation round the clock, also associated with attractions in previous documents, also gets a mention here.

The prospect of relocating the athletics arena and other sports facilities to make way for commercial development has been dropped from proposals made in previous documents. And while there's a mention of a hope to attract sports governing bodies to Manchester, the idea of a 'House of Sport' building at the Beswick Hub to house them doesn't seem to be referred to (I've only scan read it, though, so maybe I missed something).

Parking is going to be a major challenge. I see they say they hope to get more people using Metrolink, and that presumably includes the mooted new tram-train line from Marple, which would stop at Ashburys and a new Beswick stop before heading to the stop at Piccadilly station. However, the conversion of heavy rail for tram-trains in the UK is currently subject to a trial in South Yorkshire that was supposed to start ages ago and seems to have been delayed time after time (not sure what the latest status is). So it's going to take quite a while before we'll have any new Marple trams coming this way.
 
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It need A proper train link. Using the line directly behind the stadium. Perhaps Etihad rail can upgrade the line.
 
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Interesting. Some of the matters in this document have been discussed in the Manchester Evening News before but I haven't seen the document itself. It's expressed to be a draft for consultation so if they're now sending out letters about it, presumably the public consultation has started.

These types of documents are always aspirational and short on detail, and inevitably not everything in them comes to pass. Nonetheless, the Campus, the Beswick Hub and the sixth-form college from previous versions of the Eastlands Regeneration Framework have become a reality. Discussions have been ongoing with MMU and other parties for several years about the possibility of some kind of sports university at the Campus, so I suspect this is already well past appealing to people to consider something. I believe they'll have quite a definite idea of the facility they want to create and people lined up to help create it. Of course, making it happen is still another matter and could involve substantial challenges.

What's clear is that they see the educational development as key to stimulating further development on the collar site and possibly the north car parks. Any announcement about the initial stage of the latter would seem unlikely to precede the announcement of the university, but perhaps some new sports and commercial facilities (an arena and conferencing space, perhaps) might be built concurrently with the educational facility.

I see that they haven't completely rowed back on the 'leisure and tourism destination' aspiration. There's a reference to "successful destination leisure and tourism attractions" that "internationally distinctive in content and scale". Notably less effusive language, however. The prospect of operation round the clock, also associated with attractions in previous documents, also gets a mention here.

The prospect of relocating the athletics arena and other sports facilities to make way for commercial development has been dropped from proposals made in previous documents. And while there's a mention of a hope to attract sports governing bodies to Manchester, the idea of a 'House of Sport' building at the Beswick Hub to house them doesn't seem to be referred to (I've only scan read it, though, so maybe I missed something).

Parking is going to be a major challenge. I see they say they hope to get more people using Metrolink, and that presumably includes the mooted new tram-train line from Marple, which would stop at Ashburys and a new Beswick stop before heading to the stop at Piccadilly station. However, the conversion of heavy rail for tram-trains in the UK is currently subject to a trial in South Yorkshire that was supposed to start ages ago and seems to have been delayed time after time (not sure what the latest status is). So it's going to take quite a while before we'll have any new Marple trams coming this way.
UoM and MMU have both made major cuts recently. UoM major staff cuts. MMU closing Crewe campus.
 

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