It's difficult to argue on that, but it seems like he's giving the respect to DC now as he's clearly proven he's better. Once you beat someone twice, and finish them the second time round when you're not even at your best, you clearly have finished the conversation.
I have no doubt that JJ would try and prove something by taking Werdum down, but Werdum is elite when it comes to HW submission fighters. Werdum may be 'by the numbers' but how many people expected him to become a good standup fighter? Nobody expected him to trade with Travis Browne, for instance, and he lit Travis up.
Genuine question - for you and anyone else on here. Are you saying that JJ is the greatest UFC fighter of all time or that he is the greatest Martial Artist of all time? Or are these the same thing? For me, I am not entirely sure it possible to truly compare - back in 'the old days', for instance, people used to fight on a raised platform (without a cage to keep you from falling)...beyond that, at one time, the 'prize' for losing was death, which might fairly be said to change the nature of the game, right?
Yeah that's true, and lets not forget that JJ for MMA is different to straight up JJ. There is no way that John would beat Werdum with Gi or no Gi in straight up BJJ, but he could easily take Werdum down and elbow him in the face for 5 rounds, or just simply beat the shit out of him standing. But from a size and skill point, i think Werdum has good tools to beat him.
I suppose it's perception. Traditional martial arts imo is flawed, every form of it pretends that it is the purest form of combat and is better than the other. It's been proven that no one martial arts is the best, but all of them combined are what true martial arts should be. So, if there is one fighter who can use all the martial arts together better than anyone else, and could beat any martial artist using one (or multiple) arts against him, then maybe he is the best martial artist ever?
Thanks - makes a lot of sense. I have no doubt that the fighters in UFC are damn good at what they do - and much respect
There are traditional martial arts that teach to let go of this kind thinking - especially the underlined part. And many Martial Arts use weapons that would negate much of what goes on in the octagon, so you could say that MMA doesn't consider all contexts and embrace all aspects of MA. That said it is an interesting and fiery crucible to explore the principles of MA.
Werdum of a couple of years ago maybe but lets face it, hes looked average at best in his last 3 fights. I dont think theres a heavyweight that can beat jones.
I definently prefer it over other bjj. Remember that metamoris card that pretty much had all draws.
A question...if McGregor loses to Mayweather in a boxing ring does this make boxers better than MMArtists? If a 'Traditional' MA loses to a MMA in the ocatagon, does this mean that MMA's are better than TMA's? If a boxer loses to a TMA outside of a boxing ring, does this mean that TMA's are better than boxers? Or is just that that each are best developed for a certain environment/within certain conditions?
EBI is much better than Metamoris and ADCC in terms of a spectator sport, Eddie has done the right thing. I went to watch ADCC when i was over in UAE a few years ago and found it pretty boring tbh.
Think your doing Werdum a dis-service. IMO he was unlucky against Stipe, just got caught but was doing well before then. Travis Browne, we probably can't count his fights anymore but he battered him, and Overeem fight i think he won but agreed it was a poor performance. I think JJ knows that the heavyweights are a different kettle of fish, he's also personally said that he'll only do it for a huge pay day.
Not really sure what the question is mate tbh. Win or lose, McGregor is obviously not a better boxer than Mayweather. But is McGregor a better Martial Artist or fighter than Mayweather, yes of course he is.
