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There comes a point when we need to be one of these elite clubs competing and winning Champions Leagues every year. The owners want it, the manager wants it and the players want it, any fan that says they don't want it is just setting the club back.

Irregardless of what anyone think of UEFA (bent twats), the best way to stick it to UEFA is to win the damn thing.

Plus if we're winning Champions Leagues I reckon it's pretty much a guarantee we'll be dominating the Premier League.
Not sure about this.

English Champions League winners since 2000:

Chelsea 2012 - Finished 6th
United 2008 - Finished 1st
Liverpool 2005 - Finished 5th

Finalists:
United 2011 - Finished 1st
United 2009 - Finished 1st
Chelsea 2008 - Finished 2nd
Liverpool 2007 - Finished 3rd
Arsenal 2006 - Finished 4th
 
Not sure about this.

English Champions League winners since 2000:

Chelsea 2012 - Finished 6th
United 2008 - Finished 1st
Liverpool 2005 - Finished 5th

Finalists:
United 2011 - Finished 1st
United 2009 - Finished 1st
Chelsea 2008 - Finished 2nd
Liverpool 2007 - Finished 3rd
Arsenal 2006 - Finished 4th

I was referring to my post where I said we'd be winning and challenging for Champions Leagues every year, not one offs like most of those. I was talking on the basis that we need to be doing what Real, Barca and Bayern are doing, challenging every year whilst being more than competitive in the league. Obviously a harder task in England than in Italy or Germany but there needs to be a point when we attempt to be the dominate English team.
 
I was referring to my post where I said we'd be winning and challenging for Champions Leagues every year, not one offs like most of those. I was talking on the basis that we need to be doing what Real, Barca and Bayern are doing, challenging every year whilst being more than competitive in the league. Obviously a harder task in England than in Italy or Germany but there needs to be a point when we attempt to be the dominate English team.
See what you're saying, my bad. I'd love to win the Champions League, but if we focus on winning multiple titles and dominating the PL then European success will eventually, inevitably follow.
 
Does anyone have a list of the targets we are linked with that will be the final 2 additions?

Tough to say because we've heard about a "mystery CB" all window. From the links it could be Inigo Martinez, Ben Gibson, or a higher transfer fee that many want in van Dijk. As far as the attacker we've been linked heavily with Sanchez and Mbappe all window. If not one of those two it's really up in the air. Pep could also decide that one of the signings be a midfielder, most likely a holding mid. There haven't been any links really, a recent rumor of Busquets that has been shot down by many Barca ITKs, could just be lazy journalism since Pep brought him through Barca. I should know more in three weeks.
 
Slightly off topic but do we give a f**k about Champions League? I know the club needs it for "ongoing branding" but I don't give 2 shits about it. I want us to dominate the Premier League

You don't become an elite club winning only domestic competitions. (Present day Celtic, anyone?)

The CL provides a global yardstick, prestige and pulling power.

So yes, I give a f**k and imagine our owners do too.
 
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Tough to say because we've heard about a "mystery CB" all window. From the links it could be Inigo Martinez, Ben Gibson, or a higher transfer fee that many want in van Dijk. As far as the attacker we've been linked heavily with Sanchez and Mbappe all window. If not one of those two it's really up in the air. Pep could also decide that one of the signings be a midfielder, most likely a holding mid. There haven't been any links really, a recent rumor of Busquets that has been shot down by many Barca ITKs, could just be lazy journalism since Pep brought him through Barca. I should know more in three weeks.
You should know more in three weeks? I suspect you will my freind, I suspect many will.
 
Slightly off topic but do we give a f**k about Champions League? I know the club needs it for "ongoing branding" but I don't give 2 shits about it. I want us to dominate the Premier League
Same here. Sadly for the project it's essential. I go to all the CL games without giving s fuck. It's great.
 
I think the whole 'mystery CB' thing just means that we were thinking about possibly going for a CB but hadn't definitively decided on that or who the targets would be if we did
 
On the CL, I was no great fan and have been known to boo the anthem, but things changed for me last year. The most entertaining matches at home last year were in the CL. The top teams in Europe don't come and shut up shop making for better games. Barcelona and Monaco were by far the best games we saw at home last year and the atmosphere was fantastic at both.

I'd still rather win the Premier League this year though ;-)
 
Slightly off topic but do we give a f**k about Champions League? I know the club needs it for "ongoing branding" but I don't give 2 shits about it. I want us to dominate the Premier League

You are right - few City fans are gonna get more excited about a fixture against a European team than say Liverpool, Chelsea or the Rags. The CL is a giant bore - more so because of the endless seeding and manipulation - same fixtures over and over again year after year. We seem to play FC Bayern, and Barcelona - year after year.
 
You are right - few City fans are gonna get more excited about a fixture against a European team than say Liverpool, Chelsea or the Rags. The CL is a giant bore - more so because of the endless seeding and manipulation - same fixtures over and over again year after year. We seem to play FC Bayern, and Barcelona - year after year.
the manipulation of the rules renders it to be a lottery. its bent as fuck, some games mentioned were great, and we must have hurt establishment, but in truth we'd have to go some to win it, they simply wont allow it. if we did they would change something some we couldn't defend it.
 
On the CL, I was no great fan and have been known to boo the anthem, but things changed for me last year. The most entertaining matches at home last year were in the CL. The top teams in Europe don't come and shut up shop making for better games. Barcelona and Monaco were by far the best games we saw at home last year and the atmosphere was fantastic at both.

I'd still rather win the Premier League this year though ;-)

Yep, easily our two best games last season for atmosphere and entertainment value.

I too would take the league title over CL but CL is where the money is at, you win that you make yourself stronger financially which in turn gives you greater ability to compete for domestic titles.
 
You are right - few City fans are gonna get more excited about a fixture against a European team than say Liverpool, Chelsea or the Rags. The CL is a giant bore - more so because of the endless seeding and manipulation - same fixtures over and over again year after year. We seem to play FC Bayern, and Barcelona - year after year.

I get more excited when we are playing Barca or Bayern than I do Everton, for example.
 
I get more excited when we are playing Barca or Bayern than I do Everton, for example.

The Barca game a few years ago did it for me - you couldn't get within a few feet of them without them falling over and the ref giving the foul. Then Navas gets fouled, we get nothing and it leads to the red card and game over. I suspect there's an element that the whole thing's bent but I mainly suspect it's down to the more physical element of the PL meaning that English teams struggle to adapt their game to a way that's acceptable to some overly flamboyant ref.

I realised that night that I'd rather watch us play West Brom or Palace than that nonsense and apart from taking the kids to the Madrid semi-final, as it was possibly a once in a lifetime experience, I've not been back. Not on the CL cup scheme this time, either. Happy for my seat to go to some hipster in a half and half scarf.

Appreciate the club feels it's important, but I've got no interest in it.
 
The Barca game a few years ago did it for me - you couldn't get within a few feet of them without them falling over and the ref giving the foul. Then Navas gets fouled, we get nothing and it leads to the red card and game over. I suspect there's an element that the whole thing's bent but I mainly suspect it's down to the more physical element of the PL meaning that English teams struggle to adapt their game to a way that's acceptable to some overly flamboyant ref.

I realised that night that I'd rather watch us play West Brom or Palace than that nonsense and apart from taking the kids to the Madrid semi-final, as it was possibly a once in a lifetime experience, I've not been back. Not on the CL cup scheme this time, either. Happy for my seat to go to some hipster in a half and half scarf.

Appreciate the club feels it's important, but I've got no interest in it.

I feel the same about the diving etc., but I can see where the club are coming from too – look at what a difference winning the CL made to Chelsea, they now sell a huge amount of shirts worldwide and have the sort of plastic support usually associated with the Rags or Dippers... winning the chumps league attracts millions of plastics and raises the club's global profile... leading to better, more lucrative sponsorships etc.
We may not like the armchair glory-hunters jumping on board... but win the CL once, and I feel we will start generating the sort of money, some of the other so-called CL big-boys can only dream of... we'll be able to blow them out of the water season in, season out... and that's what UEFA are shit scared of!
 
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