Kylian Mbappe

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MP71 said:
I want titles too, I think we can do it and bring through two of the most promising youngsters in world football. I don't believe the two are mutually exclusive.
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And let's face it, we've won trophies already. I am not saying it's unimportant, of course it is, and for Pep even more so since another trophy-less season and he's perhaps out on his ear, whereas we will all still be here. But personally, I no longer yearn for a trophy like I did before the takeover.

But for me, it would lessen the value of anything we win if we feel we've simply bought it. I'd like to see us playing stylish football, creating and scoring lots of goals, developing our young talent and seeing them come through. And if we can win some stuff too, then even better.

I'm in no rush for world domination; I've waited since 1966 so I can wait a bit longer :-)
 
As I said the other day, will be bitterly disappointed in Khaldoon and the board for not sanctioning this move. Shows a lack of vision which is surprising for such forward thinking owners. As for Guardiola, realistically he needs to decide what he's going to do. He doesn't want Sanchez to ask for a transfer or stop training, he wants to do a deal 'amicably' with Arsenal or not at all. Well it's going to be not at all Pep, so what now ?

A transfer window which has shown so much promise and addressed such huge issues in the squad is going to end with us undoing our own good work.
 
Chippy_boy said:
And let's face it, we've won trophies already. I am not saying it's unimportant, of course it is, and for Pep even more so since another trophy-less season and he's perhaps out on his ear, whereas we will all still be here. But personally, I no longer yearn for a trophy like I did before the takeover.

But for me, it would lessen the value of anything we win if we feel we've simply bought it. I'd like to see us playing stylish football, creating and scoring lots of goals, developing our young talent and seeing them come through. And if we can win some stuff too, then even better.

I'm in no rush for world domination; I've waited since 1966 so I can wait a bit longer :-)
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I agree and you've put it far better than I did. Mid seventies for me and the Aguero moment was so satiating for me I am not as desperate. Just loving the football we get to watch.
 
SWP's back said:
Bollocks.
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Agreed. Either PSG have sufficient FFP-compliant funds, or they aren't signing him. Even in the extremely unlikely event that they fall foul of FFP again, there's a range of sanctions up to disqualification from competition, and I cannot remotely imagine UEFA would impose that.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Agreed. Either PSG have sufficient FFP-compliant funds, or they aren't signing him. Even in the extremely unlikely event that they fall foul of FFP again, there's a range of sanctions up to disqualification from competition, and I cannot remotely imagine UEFA would impose that.
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I can see UEFA going full pelt of punishment to be honest. They have to show they aren't the corrupt old UEFA and that they full implement the punishments for rule breaking accordingly. To be honest the PSG chairman comes across as a bit of a big headed twat so I'm glad if they wipe that smug look of the twats face
 
Chippy_boy said:
And let's face it, we've won trophies already. I am not saying it's unimportant, of course it is, and for Pep even more so since another trophy-less season and he's perhaps out on his ear, whereas we will all still be here. But personally, I no longer yearn for a trophy like I did before the takeover.

But for me, it would lessen the value of anything we win if we feel we've simply bought it. I'd like to see us playing stylish football, creating and scoring lots of goals, developing our young talent and seeing them come through. And if we can win some stuff too, then even better.

I'm in no rush for world domination; I've waited since 1966 so I can wait a bit longer :-)
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Totally agree. I'm so looking forward to this season with what Pep et al has already done. You can even feel the stylish play that is about to come. After THAT Serg' moment I'm far more relaxed than I've ever been going into the new season. I cannot wait for Saturday afternoon.
 
BillyShears said:
As I said the other day, will be bitterly disappointed in Khaldoon and the board for not sanctioning this move. Shows a lack of vision which is surprising for such forward thinking owners. As for Guardiola, realistically he needs to decide what he's going to do. He doesn't want Sanchez to ask for a transfer or stop training, he wants to do a deal 'amicably' with Arsenal or not at all. Well it's going to be not at all Pep, so what now ?

A transfer window which has shown so much promise and addressed such huge issues in the squad is going to end with us undoing our own good work.
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Not like you to be so critical.

You think it was Mbappe, Sanchez or no one?

Perhaps we now go for a Centre Midfielder and Central Defender?
 
Now that we know (90%) nothing would make me happiern then We beating PSG in 1/16 or 1/4.of CL.

I Belive we have a more complet and tighter team the PSG, and should be able to beat them

This is me when we beat PSG in CL hehe[emoji23]
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BillyShears said:
As I said the other day, will be bitterly disappointed in Khaldoon and the board for not sanctioning this move. Shows a lack of vision which is surprising for such forward thinking owners. As for Guardiola, realistically he needs to decide what he's going to do. He doesn't want Sanchez to ask for a transfer or stop training, he wants to do a deal 'amicably' with Arsenal or not at all. Well it's going to be not at all Pep, so what now ?

A transfer window which has shown so much promise and addressed such huge issues in the squad is going to end with us undoing our own good work.
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Is the PSG interest genuine? If not, then there's only City in this in which case we do not have to pay what Monaco ask.
 
BillyShears said:
As I said the other day, will be bitterly disappointed in Khaldoon and the board for not sanctioning this move. Shows a lack of vision which is surprising for such forward thinking owners. As for Guardiola, realistically he needs to decide what he's going to do. He doesn't want Sanchez to ask for a transfer or stop training, he wants to do a deal 'amicably' with Arsenal or not at all. Well it's going to be not at all Pep, so what now ?

A transfer window which has shown so much promise and addressed such huge issues in the squad is going to end with us undoing our own good work.
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If we found that we were a player short, it doesn't mean we have ended up 'undoing our good work' it just means we haven't quite finished doing our 'good work'.

What we want, is an improvement on last season in the right direction. If we win stuff then it's already worked, if we don't, then just improve it some more.

Imo we are building a very special team, maybe something nobody has seen before. If we don't quite get there right now, it doesn't mean all the improvements count for nothing.

We are still goiing to need a centre back & a centre mid to get there anyhow, & it could just as easily be that, which causes us to miss out this season, rather than lack of another striker.

The whole job does not have to be done in this transfer window.
 
BillyShears said:
As I said the other day, will be bitterly disappointed in Khaldoon and the board for not sanctioning this move. Shows a lack of vision which is surprising for such forward thinking owners. As for Guardiola, realistically he needs to decide what he's going to do. He doesn't want Sanchez to ask for a transfer or stop training, he wants to do a deal 'amicably' with Arsenal or not at all. Well it's going to be not at all Pep, so what now ?

A transfer window which has shown so much promise and addressed such huge issues in the squad is going to end with us undoing our own good work.
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Could they just be having second thoughts about smashing the wage structure that was carefully put in place a couple of years ago - and for an 18 year old, however promising he is?
 
BillyShears said:
As I said the other day, will be bitterly disappointed in Khaldoon and the board for not sanctioning this move. Shows a lack of vision which is surprising for such forward thinking owners. As for Guardiola, realistically he needs to decide what he's going to do. He doesn't want Sanchez to ask for a transfer or stop training, he wants to do a deal 'amicably' with Arsenal or not at all. Well it's going to be not at all Pep, so what now ?

A transfer window which has shown so much promise and addressed such huge issues in the squad is going to end with us undoing our own good work.
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Have you heard that we're definitely not in for him then, Billy?
 
Neville Kneville said:
The whole job does not have to be done in this transfer window.
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Totally agree. I also think we've done a great job in the players have brought in. Kudos to Txiki and Pep.

Notwithstanding that, 4 players for three key positions, where one of those 4 has a history of injuries suspensions, is the kind of risk you don't take when your chairman talks big about "don't congratulate me on third" and "we expect to win everything".
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Have you heard that we're definitely not in for him then, Billy?
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What I know is that City aren't prepared to pay Monaco's asking price. No issues with Mbappe's contract or his dad's %. So this is about principle for our owners and 'value' as they see it. Fair enough. They've done more than enough to earn the right to walk away from whatever deal they want. But for me, it's principled to a fault. A bit like Pep not wanting Sanchez to kick up a stink because he'd never want one of his own players doing that. Highly admirable and ethically great. But in the real world, UEFA hate us, we are panned on a daily basis for what we spend, and players are constantly agitating for moves around the globe.
 
Maybe the lad wants PSG. He's Parisian. His family live there. They are all PSG fans.

It's easy to say Khaldoon dropped the ball, but it's possible that we would have had to go even further to get him than potentially PSG would. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

Ultimately, I agree, we still lack that killer edge, but it's hard to look at the abundance of quality we brought in, essentially refitting our entire back line, and say that not getting Mbappe is undoing all our hard work.
 
BillyShears said:
What I know is that City aren't prepared to pay Monaco's asking price. No issues with Mbappe's contract or his dad's %. So this is about principle for our owners and 'value' as they see it. Fair enough. They've done more than enough to earn the right to walk away from whatever deal they want. But for me, it's principled to a fault. A bit like Pep not wanting Sanchez to kick up a stink because he'd never want one of his own players doing that. Highly admirable and ethically great. But in the real world, UEFA hate us, we are panned on a daily basis for what we spend, and players are constantly agitating for moves around the globe.
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Well if there's only City in this, we'd be stupid to pay what Monaco want. Are we still in it as far as you know. It sounds like it would be very stupid to pull out when we are the only bidder at the table. Would you trust Le Parisien report? It is what we want to hear, but it sounds very logical and believable to me
 
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