Kylian Mbappe

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jackqueen said:
What is comfortable about a 77th minute score to win on away goals?
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I mean by watching the games you could see the gulf in quality

Thought we were quite fortunate to win at the etihad as they bossed most of that match. Either way the point I'm making is that prem isn't as strong as people make out.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
I mean by watching the games you could see the gulf in quality

Thought we were quite fortunate to win at the etihad as they bossed most of that match. Either way the point I'm making is that prem isn't as strong as people make out.
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I don't disagree with your larger point, and they definitely bossed us at times, but they still managed to concede six over the two games and completely shat themselves there for awhile in the second half at the Etihad.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
I mean by watching the games you could see the gulf in quality

Thought we were quite fortunate to win at the etihad as they bossed most of that match. Either way the point I'm making is that prem isn't as strong as people make out.
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It's a much stronger league though, in the sense of being more competitive. The Scottish league has only 1 potential winner at the moment. The French league the same this season I suspect, though occasionally another team such as Monaco might put up a challenge for a season or 2 before their team gets broken up. The premier league is a much more difficult league to win.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
Thought we were quite fortunate to win at the etihad
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Sorry but that's bollocks, they were completely and utterly fucked after 60 minutes, we battered them the last 30 mins and should have scored more, it was never 'comfortable' for them. Football is a 90 minute game, no good being CL material for 60 minutes, then Unibond League for 30. They only went through because of that ridiculous high line we decided to play for their free kick.
 
Bilboblue said:
Sorry but that's bollocks, they were completely and utterly fucked after 60 minutes, we battered them the last 30 mins and should have scored more, it was never 'comfortable' for them. Football is a 90 minute game, no good being CL material for 60 minutes, then Unibond League for 30. They only went through because of that ridiculous high line we decided to play for their free kick.
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Yes that free kick cost us but the main problem was Peps tactics in the 1st half of the away leg that cost us big time. 1 pivot DM constantly outnumbered and fullbacks being pissed on. KDB dropped deeper second half and we were lots better. I saw it after 5 minutes. Quite why it took Pep a further 40 minutes to sort it out was beyond me.
 
PSG sign Mbappe means they need to sell someone. They cant bench both Di Maria and Draxler and I would love to sign one of them for our roster
 
CityForever45 said:
And last year we have been eliminated by the french champions and unable to beat the scottisch ones. We should be a bit more humble we are not as good as we think.
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Spot on, just because we have Pep doesn't mean we're a top top side.
Crowing when we've achieved nothing is a bit foolish
 
bluemoon32 said:
Spot on, just because we have Pep doesn't mean we're a top top side.
Crowing when we've achieved nothing is a bit foolish
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I don't think anybody was crowing. They were just pointing out that the French and Scottish leagues aren't the best and aren't really very competitive, which is true. That doesn't mean there can't be one or 2 very good teams in those leagues but on the whole they aren't anywhere near as competitive as the premier league.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
I really struggle to get why people in England think the premiership is so far ahead of all the other leagues. The english sides have done fuck all in the CL for a quite a while and the likes of Southampton and West Ham were knocked out of Europe by teams from Israel and Romania.

On Mpappe if PSG get him then its either them or Madrid for the CL
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There is a competitiveness in the Prem that the other leagues don't have. It has the highest percentage of late goals and lower sides beating top sides than any other league. I think it is the best league. But, indeed, that doesn't mean it has the best teams. We are dealt with or struggle to get past [on a regular basis] by utter average sides around Europe (not just City but all our sides in Europe over the past five years).
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
I mean by watching the games you could see the gulf in quality

Thought we were quite fortunate to win at the etihad as they bossed most of that match. Either way the point I'm making is that prem isn't as strong as people make out.
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How can a team boss a match and concede 5 goals? The City v Monaco tie turned out to be very close but even though there was some fantastic football I felt disappointed to go out to them as I thought it was a tie we should have won. The top Premierhsip sides are below the leading clubs in Europe. Technically the best football is played in La Liga but the Premier League has great depth which is what the other leagues lack.
 
Marvin said:
How can a team boss a match and concede 5 goals? The City v Monaco tie turned out to be very close but even though there was some fantastic football I felt disappointed to go out to them as I thought it was a tie we should have won. The top Premierhsip sides are below the leading clubs in Europe. Technically the best football is played in La Liga but the Premier League has great depth which is what the other leagues lack.
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I've been guilty of saying other leagues lack depth. But recently heard it put another way. The teams at the top of the Spanish and other leagues are just better than the teams at the top of our league, as seen in the C/ l . So they beat the teams they should more often than our top teams, though not always as Girona showed at the weekend.
For example a mid table Spanish team may not be worse than West Brom but when Madrid play them its easier because Madrid are better than our champions Chelsea.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
I mean by watching the games you could see the gulf in quality

Thought we were quite fortunate to win at the etihad as they bossed most of that match. Either way the point I'm making is that prem isn't as strong as people make out.
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You need to watch the game at the Etihad again. Gulf in quality my arse.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
Monaco were out on their feet in that 2nd half over there. We should have been 3 or 4 up by the time they scored. There was very little difference between the sides, both great going forward, both terrible at the back.
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The only reason Monaco got through, was defensive howlers by Stones & Otamendi & a shocking refereeing decision.

Otherwise City were the best team by a decent margin. Monaco great on the break with a few exceptional individual performances. And as you say, they were dead on their feet chasing us.

We fucked up, is why we went out. Not Monaco being superior. We should have gone through by several goals.
 
Cobwebcat said:
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There's a point in business when you have to concede that the numbers just do not stack up or make sense. At that point you walk away & it seems we are now at that point.
As much as I'd love him here I just can't see how the deal is any good for City as a business (like it or not we are a business) & if the above is true then I'm glad we've walked away.
 
If indeed this is true and we have moved away from Mbappe, let's go all in for Sanchez and one of VVD or Alderweireld.
It makes more sense at the costs.
 
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