'All Or Nothing' - NO SPOILERS! - no content discussion

Shaelumstash said:
I don't really understand why Sky would have a problem with it?

They have the rights to the match footage, so Amazon would have to pay them to use it?

City already produce their own in-house content. I think the NY Yankee owned YES network help with that.

United have their own TV channel with their own content. As do Liverpool and Chelsea. All, I assume, show behind the scenes footage.

Channel 5 did the documentary on Liverpool. NBC did a one hour program on City a couple of years back.

So why would Sky be arsed if Amazon did a documentary on City? What's the difference?

The only thing I can think is that this is a brief from the PL. They've done their usual bargaining tactic when the new rights come up for negotiation - linked a new company with being interested in bidding for the rights.

In the past they've linked Apple, Disney, Facebook and others with bidding for PL rights, in order to make sure Sky don't get complacent with their bid. This year they've linked Amazon with bidding for the rights.
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Because it will give them a taste of football on there platform and sky could be up against Amazon when the rights come up again, Richard Scudamore will be happy about it.
 
Shaelumstash said:
I don't really understand why Sky would have a problem with it?

They have the rights to the match footage, so Amazon would have to pay them to use it?

City already produce their own in-house content. I think the NY Yankee owned YES network help with that.

United have their own TV channel with their own content. As do Liverpool and Chelsea. All, I assume, show behind the scenes footage.

Channel 5 did the documentary on Liverpool. NBC did a one hour program on City a couple of years back.

So why would Sky be arsed if Amazon did a documentary on City? What's the difference?

The only thing I can think is that this is a brief from the PL. They've done their usual bargaining tactic when the new rights come up for negotiation - linked a new company with being interested in bidding for the rights.

In the past they've linked Apple, Disney, Facebook and others with bidding for PL rights, in order to make sure Sky don't get complacent with their bid. This year they've linked Amazon with bidding for the rights.
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This could be Amazon's way of testing the appetite for football. If enough people watch it, they may determine its worthwhile entering the bidding process for the live rights. That will be a huge threat to Sky because either; 1) they will have to pay even more for the rights or 2) they will lose them altogether and lose a load of subscribers in the process.

Sky do not want a bidding war and the best way to avoid that is with fewer people bidding.
 
Remember that Amazon have already launched their Prime add on subscription channels, such as Eurosport. It's not hard to see that as testing the waters.
 
United will get a bigger deal. Everyone of their 650 million fans are willing to pay £100 each. Equals £65 billion deal. They will finally get Wesley Schneider sadly #worried
 
waspish said:
Because it will give them a taste of football on there platform and sky could be up against Amazon when the rights come up again, Richard Scudamore will be happy about it.
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cptaidan88 said:
This could be Amazon's way of testing the appetite for football. If enough people watch it, they may determine its worthwhile entering the bidding process for the live rights. That will be a huge threat to Sky because either; 1) they will have to pay even more for the rights or 2) they will lose them altogether and lose a load of subscribers in the process.

Sky do not want a bidding war and the best way to avoid that is with fewer people bidding.
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Yeh guys, I totally understand why Sky wouldn't want Amazon bidding for live action rights. But as I pointed out in my post, Scudamore and the PL do this every single time the rights are up for negotiation - link a company that has no intention of bidding, and they never end up bidding.

Apple, Facebook and Disney all linked in the past with outbidding Sky for the rights, but it never happens. Amazon is just the latest company to be linked with bidding for the main rights, but they never do.

If you go back and look over the last few bidding cycles, the exact same story appears at exactly the same time across all the newspapers when the rights are due to go to tender. I'm sure Sky are wise to it by now.

Amazon making a documentary about City and Amazon bidding for the main UK Live TV rights to the PL are two completely different things. I don't think Sky will be at all concerned about the former, and given Scudamore's previous, I don't think they will be too concerned about the latter.
 
As much as i agree with whats been said about sky i hate watching stuff on my computer,city games only,i really don't want to pay amazon for it
 
karen7 said:
As much as i agree with whats been said about sky i hate watching stuff on my computer,city games only,i really don't want to pay amazon for it
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You don't have to. Modern TVs are internet enabled and you can watch Amazon Prime/Netflix/iPlayer etc on the TV.

Time to get rid of the black and white portable. ;-)
 
karen7 said:
I don't have a smart telly,i should get one but they scare me lol
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I've not got one either, but if you've got a telly made in the last 10 years, you can turn it in to a Smart Telly by buying an Amazon Firestick. They're about £30 and just plug in to the side of your TV. It's quite handy.
 
karen7 said:
Thanks i'll go look at that now
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No worries. There was a really good thread on here somewhere with "Kodi" in the title that explained how to get the most out of your Firestick if you were looking for hard to find live City games. It was most informative ;-)
 
bluetonium said:
Sky apparently spitting their dummies out about this due to the PL rights package they believe they have.

Thing is what are they going to do? Not report on City even if we are top of the league? Replay every controversial offside and red card in our favour and ignore the ones that go against us? Focus on Liverpool and the scum as that is where their subscriber base is in the majority? Yeah, bridges burnt already Sky.

Amazon are by no means perfect but if they a heralding in a new age of sports viewing where I get to pick and choose which games i want, rather than having to have a package whereby I won;t know the games before I sign the contract, may get a handful of my teams games but also a load of tosh that I would never want to watch (nor have the chance), and have recognized the value in MCFC as a brand and supporter base due to the neglect of other broadcasters en mass, then viva la revolution!
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Music to my ears listening to Sly bleating about this documentary. They do us down at every opportunity, clearly favour the clubs supported by sheep and employ a bunch of twats.
 
quiet_riot said:
This is really good. Interesting to read about the Juve one as well,

If, as anticipated, these docos are in the same vein and to a similar standard as All or Nothing and Hard Knocks, they will be must watch for sports fans.

I wonder who will do the narration? Jon Hamm and Lieb Schreiber are two hard acts to follow, helps that they both love american football..hopefully we get someone decent, Daniel Craig perhaps?
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Tom Hardy?
 
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