Of course I wish all these players were at our club but I’m not living in dream land.
January transfer/its quiet Thread
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Of course I wish all these players were at our club but I’m not living in dream land.
That is why they need to be changed, at least in the domestic game. I mean if UEFA (for example) where "persuaded" to support a Qatar hosted WC, I mean sure they could be "persuaded" to let the local FA's decide what limits are placed on the European Squads of their nations representative clubs (while the FA is "persuaded" to relax the rules for both Domestic and European games).
In other words City are not going to be a high ranking member of Europe's Elites it cannot do while following rules which are designed to keep us out and keep the "Aristocrat" Clubs in (irrespective of their current performance) as if god put them there itself. Thus to succeed they need to change the rules of the game.
They will still get to play 20-30 games* per injury though (so long as they are fit enough), which is more than enough games to put their full effort, strength and intelligence in. Especially since even the best players struggle to be at their best even across 40-50 games. And that does include the higher pay and more trophy opportunities they would get with a team like ours.
*Which does not include pre-season friendly's or even opportunities in the B-Team (for the record I am in favour of such teams playing in the Football League to help our youth players).
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Well if City made more of an effort bypassing/overturning FFP, it would be more possible to make it a reality.
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Surely, FFP HELPS City now?! Once we had foisted ourself into the club, it doesn’t harm us to have the door closed behind us. Mansour is playing the long game.
Except we are not in the club yet, although we are at the front of the line with PSG. Besides even if we were in it, we are not at the VIP section, which is where we need to be (and throwing other clubs out). So overall FFP is doing anything but helping us.
Or rather "We can, but FFP stops us from doing so"*
Still there are ways of bypassing FFP that the club have yet to try, way such as:
1: Getting other state owned companies from other UAE Emirates (Such as Emirates Airline) to sponsor us.
2: Having Girona buy players using additional funds (which will also be used to pay the resulting UEFA fines) from City Football Group and sponsorship from UAE state owned companies and then sell (at a low fee) or loan the players in question to City itself.
3: Have Abu Dhabi and Dubai based state owned companies/sovereign wealth funds invest into certain companies which then end up sponsoring City and Girona (using most of the proceeds of the investment in question)
4: Have property assets transfered from Abu Dhabi state owned companies to Man City itself, who can in turn sell such property (maybe even back to those same companies at inflated prices though offshore based fronts) to fund transfer fees and wages.
*I was aware of our latest financial figures (and the fact we have enough of a surplus to keep UEFA off our backs) and you what I was thinking? Why on earth can Man U justify that much more commercial revenue (the one area which they outclass us beyond doubt) when we have been at their level (or better) for 7 seasons now?
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Have you looked around lately...and did you miss the last sentence.
If you think Mansour is EVER going to allow City to not eat at the top table again, you’re mistaken.
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A £1M Profit is not exactly rolling in it, but it has been an expensive year...knowing the money that is coming!
As for the Man U commercial revenues, are you kidding???
Might be time to go back to talking about transfers.
To be honest, it does not matter how much profit we make so long it keeps UEFA away from our finances. For me how we progress as a club and how much we are in debt (which is of course zero) matters more.
What about it? There is a gap between us and them of £57.5 million when it comes to commercial revenues (Which accounts for most of £107.6 milion revenue gap), what annoys me is if we increased the amount of money by £60 million from state owned companies based in Abu Dhabi (such as Eithad)
(to close that gap) then UEFA would be screaming that it was not "fair market value", yet they deam United's commercial deals to be as such despite the fact their record in both the league and in europe has been less sucessful than us in the last 7 seasons or so.
In other words if the definition of "fair market value" was fairly applied, we should be allowed to raise more commercial revenue than United. And before you ask, don't bring "number of fans" into this since it cannot really be accurately measured as much as competition/league results.
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Have you ever thought our owners might be happy with FFP, want us to stand on our own two feet, be self sustaining and profitable, and don't want to be pouring tens of millions of pounds into us.
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I seem like you think you live in some sort of fantasy world.
It is fantasy to suggest that we can win the Quadruple (which let's not forget is the aim of this club) with Fabian Delph as our only fit LB (good as he has been, he cannot do it on his own), no decent backup DMs, one consistently good GK (Bravo was excellent in the Wolves game, but it remains to be seen if he can be co in other games), no (half decent) fit CBs other than Stones and Otamendi (with question marks about the partnership, such as against the West Brom EPL game this season), no dedicated backup wingers and only one backup AM. All of which are part of a squad which have to play another 40-50 games this season (with as many as 3 games in a week) against opponents which are almost all without exception no walkovers at best and worst extremely difficut challenges to say the least.
When you look it that way, at certain games this season and the fact players such as ours can only sustain this level of performance for so long. You can see why I advocate more WC/quality players in our squad and thus more strength in depth. Because when going gets tough this season, we will certainly needd it unless we want our club to screw up for yet another season.
Him and Easy are clearly wums or Clarkie proponents
My apologies... I see Easy was joking. Blue1880 though isn't. Or more likely than not he is a Spurs fan trying to rile up support here for a silly suggestion
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No because he/she isn’t what they pretend to be imo of course.
Nope, just a Man City fan who wants to see the club they have loyally supported become of the dominant clubs of Britain and Europe, with dominance over the Premier League and FA Cup and as strong a record in Europe as that Champions League Specialist Real Madrid. As well as someone who also prefers to see the club learn from the mistakes of the past as well and see fans of rival clubs (unless they have become Cityzens themselves) either respect us or at least resent our sucess.
Everything I advocate on this forum is done so with this aim in mind.
If I was a Spurs fan, why would I advocate such a move in the first place? Seriously though if we are looking for young and talented players (especially "homegrown" ones) then Spurs is pretty much the first place one must look. Besides least we forget that what I am advocating with Spurs and other EPL clubs Man City did exactly with the Van Persie generation at the Arsenal (and we should have got Van Persie himself and Fàbregas too, it would have stopped United getting the title in 2012-2013 thats for sure), what Bayen do to other German clubs, Juventus with other Italian Clubs and what Real and Barcelona do to other Spanish Clubs, a strategy which has worked out quite well for those clubs for something you call a "silly suggestion".
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You know for a user who hates United so much as to describe themselves as a Rag Hunter, its seems very ironic to you to support FFP, a boneheaded idea which funny enough favours clubs such as United.
In other words you can call them Rags till your blue in the face, but it will mean nothing if end grinding their way to a title and/or cup thanks to the consequences of our lack of depth at the latter stages of this season. Hence no fan of this great club should support FFP at all.
If you are going to reply that post, you might as well state what your objections to the points I have made in that post rather than post random images of Pep.
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