Tesla Roadster 0-60 in 1.9 seconds

I was on the tools for 20 odd years

Granted you will eat tyres if you use in "Ludicrous" mode all day but who would... Tesla have the control and delivery side sorted trust me so getting the power down will be less of a challenge than with a heat engine.... There is no reciprocal energy to counteract so power is infinitely more controllable than in a conventional car

Since my post was specifically talking about full power launches and not normal driving, you're arguing with an empty room!
 
The quarter mile time of 8.8 seconds is very impressive, 0.8 seconds faster than the Dodge SRT Demon. Indeed, impressive tech. But let’s face it, the Tesla is nothing more than a super-expensive toy until the price comes way down. And there is no free lunch. Down the road power plants will need to be built before these can be adopted en mass. Power plants cost a lot and take a long time to construct.
 
Once we all move to electric vehicles then the government will up the price of electricity and charge us more to use charging stations. Inevitably they will end up the same or more expensive to use than an economical diesel car. No such thing as a free lunch.
 
My PCP deal finishes next September on my Qashqai 1.6 DIGT. Thinking about the leaf 2.0. There are charging stations at work and would have one at home as well. The single pedal would need a bit of time adjusting to.
 
Can someone explain to me where this sudden emergence of electric vehicles will find places to plug into when they need a charge?


There will be all those derelict petrol stations that can be converted to charging points for a start.
 
My PCP deal finishes next September on my Qashqai 1.6 DIGT. Thinking about the leaf 2.0. There are charging stations at work and would have one at home as well. The single pedal would need a bit of time adjusting to.
Ive just been in the local Nissan showroom and got the brochure for the new 2018 model out in Jan and i like the look of it a lot. Decent size compared to a lot of the other current available electric cars. They will be available for test drive in Jan, so holding off changing mine till then.
 
My concern is what state the battery will be in if you buy a second hand car ? If you have one on a PCP then you are not gonna worry, but when that car is sat on a second hand car dealership forecourt and your kicking it's tyres you will have no idea how the battery has been used in the past . Has it been plugged in all the time to condition the battery? or has it been charged up on the go using the cars engine to recharge it all the time ? The guy in the sheepskin coat will tell you it's in fantastic condition of course !
 
My concern is what state the battery will be in if you buy a second hand car ? If you have one on a PCP then you are not gonna worry, but when that car is sat on a second hand car dealership forecourt and your kicking it's tyres you will have no idea how the battery has been used in the past . Has it been plugged in all the time to condition the battery? or has it been charged up on the go using the cars engine to recharge it all the time ? The guy in the sheepskin coat will tell you it's in fantastic condition of course !
You are talking about hybrids which would have a warranty so just check the smallprint

For a pure EV , dependant on which make you buy the battery is generally covered by a warranty... some manufacturers outsource to battery management companies but Tesla (I think) cover their batteries themselves

If I need doubt buy from an authorised dealer and check you have battery cover....

Regarding charge cycles I don’t think vehicle batteries suffer from memory issues....
 
My concern is what state the battery will be in if you buy a second hand car ? If you have one on a PCP then you are not gonna worry, but when that car is sat on a second hand car dealership forecourt and your kicking it's tyres you will have no idea how the battery has been used in the past . Has it been plugged in all the time to condition the battery? or has it been charged up on the go using the cars engine to recharge it all the time ? The guy in the sheepskin coat will tell you it's in fantastic condition of course !
Tesla give an 8 year warranty that should cover that.

However if you miss use or damage it intentionally then the replacement quote is $45,000 At this time.

I would imagine the cost will drop as time goes by.
 
It may well be fine for some but, for instance, millions of people live in terraced property with no chance of access to a charging point at home so where do they go to charge up?
Parking space induction.....everywhere...even at work!

Many Yanks only charge at their workplace. And, many companies who provide company cars are happy to build charging stations and pay for Teslas or other EVs, as it saves them tons of money in gasoline expenses and helps with the whole “Buy American” that many US companies demand when providing monies for company cars. In fact, I bought my first car...Honda Prelude...from a guy who had to get rid, because the company required him to have an “American Big Three”company car.

We have the Chevy Volt (Opel Ampera over there) and just plug it in the regular garage plug outlet. However, in the airport employee lot (and passenger lot), the City has chargepoints to “fuel up” your car while you are away on a trip. Only problem is......NOT ENOUGH FOR ALL THE EVs!!!

The future is here, and in the next 3 years, people are going to be amazed at the “center of the market” EVs that major manufacturers are going to bring to market. Also, with the emissions standards outlined by European governments, the ICE is on its deathbed for the consumer market. What Musk has done with the roll out of the Semi and Midsize truck is try to extend that death knell up the kerb weight scale! From here, it is all about battery density, useful life and recharge time. SuperChargers, and truck MegaChargers take care of that problem!

Tesla just installed 12 SuperChargers in the outlot of my local supermarket. It is about 1/2 mile off a major highway and in the middle of a middle class commercial and housing area. That build out is continuing, growing by 100% in the next year. Proven technology and infrastructure build out all already in place, so from here it is simply production scale and continuous tech improvement that makes this market pick up speed and reach critical mass. The Model 3 is Tesla’s attempt to help create that critical mass. I have a reservation and mid-2018 delivery projection, however, I’m still unsure whether I will pull the trigger or wait to see what BMW, Audi, Mercedes, VW, Ford, GM, Honda, Subaru, etc, etc, etc...bring to the market in the next few years.

If it was available today, I would buy a hybrid/EV Subaru WRX or full EV (with real world range) Honda. Have always bought these two manufacturers, because IME they have been bulletproof. Had my last Honda for 14 years (‘94-‘08) without ever causing me an issue, and I currently have a 2008 WRX that is still fantastic to drive! Whether I take delivery of the Tesla 3 and give the WRX to my son next summer or not is still TBD!

Interesting times in the EV consumer space, with an excellent opportunity to start picking up used vehicles starting today! Resale values are very low for everything except the very top end EVs, so there will be an interesting chance for people to sample the tech and easy of use, if they so choose.

The future is Blue, but it is also EV!!!
 
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Ever been to the UK? Sun?
Light. PHOTOvoltaic. And, yes, I have not only been to the U.K. (grew up there, am back constantly and was even there last week for the Arsenal game!), but I amazed at the number of homes that have solar panels on them...even in places like Burnage and Gorton!

If you can MAKE YOUR OWN electricity, especially in places where energy costs are getting more expensive, isn’t it a good thing?!
 
Goodbye Petrol super cars! Lol



great news for the 1000 or so people in the UK who can afford them - the truck is likely to cost £250k against the average cost of £85k for a diesel model so I doubt the car will be competing in the SMART/ Renault Twingo arena
 
great news for the 1000 or so people in the UK who can afford them - the truck is likely to cost £250k against the average cost of £85k for a diesel model so I doubt the car will be competing in the SMART/ Renault Twingo arena
Given logistics companies' thin margins, and already high asset costs, I can't see them selling many of those over here then. Poncy companies like Apple might buy a couple to show off, but Eddie Stobart? I don't think so.
 

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