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  1. Dunno who this one supports but he's bang on the money.......from ragcafe.



    They are miles ahead of everyone else in the league at the moment in the terms of the players they have and the system they play. Guardiola has a team that is fully capable of playing his style of football and it’s going to take something special to stop them dominating the league for the next few years.

    Mourinho struggled against him at Madrid and he’s going to struggle against him here. The next Manchester derby is going to be you lot spending 89 minutes trying to stop them playing and 1 minute trying to snatch a goal.
 
The biggest annoyance of mine is something that's not just in the media but prevent on this forum too.

It's this idea that they are title challengers. They're not. They're not even close. Chelsea are our title rivals.

United are the only team I've ever seen to finish 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th yet be spoken about as if they're somehow a challenger. Im fact evidence suggests theyre getting worse. They're literally living off a name and loads of people including City fans buy into it
 
Damocles said:
The biggest annoyance of mine is something that's not just in the media but prevent on this forum too.

It's this idea that they are title challengers. They're not. They're not even close. Chelsea are our title rivals.

United are the only team I've ever seen to finish 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th yet be spoken about as if they're somehow a challenger. Im fact evidence suggests theyre getting worse. They're literally living off a name and loads of people including City fans buy into it
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I said they wouldn't finish top 4 and I'm convinced I'll be right. They're absolutely miles behind both us Chelsea and even Spurs.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
I tend to agree with those who think the tactics will be to kick us over and over, and hope they get a lenient official. They will go right after Silva as everyone does but DeBruyne especially because once in a while he gets his dander up and retaliates.
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Exactly, that's what poor Mark Hughes said, " we were getting back into the game and at 3-2 we were on the up, then obviously De Bruyne took umbrage at that and preceded to take us apart" good call that by Hughes, bang on the money ;-)
 
SPIDERBOY said:
  1. Dunno who this one supports but he's bang on the money.......from ragcafe.



    They are miles ahead of everyone else in the league at the moment in the terms of the players they have and the system they play. Guardiola has a team that is fully capable of playing his style of football and it’s going to take something special to stop them dominating the league for the next few years.

    Mourinho struggled against him at Madrid and he’s going to struggle against him here. The next Manchester derby is going to be you lot spending 89 minutes trying to stop them playing and 1 minute trying to snatch a goal.
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Bang on the money indeed, his analysis is what most knowledgeable football fans already see.
 
Itsaar said:
Is this not the rhetoric all the Rag press reel off, play for Utd get a England cap free. No wonder the players believe also!!
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southgate should never pick him again after that. United don't have the best footballers in the league anymore,that attitude went on far longer than it should of. Personally while they're playing under peg and lumping long balls to a nose I wouldn't pick any of them :)
 
Damocles said:
The biggest annoyance of mine is something that's not just in the media but prevent on this forum too.

It's this idea that they are title challengers. They're not. They're not even close. Chelsea are our title rivals.

United are the only team I've ever seen to finish 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th yet be spoken about as if they're somehow a challenger. Im fact evidence suggests theyre getting worse. They're literally living off a name and loads of people including City fans buy into it
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Chelsea, for me are most certainly our direct rivals, their traditional bad start has now developed into solid performances, and they possess the flair players to exploit this.
United are not of their quality, and can be summarily dismissed from any discussions about threats etc; the pattern of the last few years is exactly that, a pattern, so 5th would be a reasonable shout.
 
Damocles said:
The biggest annoyance of mine is something that's not just in the media but prevent on this forum too.

It's this idea that they are title challengers. They're not. They're not even close. Chelsea are our title rivals.

United are the only team I've ever seen to finish 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th yet be spoken about as if they're somehow a challenger. Im fact evidence suggests theyre getting worse. They're literally living off a name and loads of people including City fans buy into it
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At risk of annoying you further, I am one of those who think they will challenge us, possibly even for the CL, this season.

It isn't that I think they are anything other than shit. In fact, I think they should apologise for the manifest insolence of comparing themselves to us.

However, I have observed them for 50 years and they are the luckiest bastards that ever inhabited this planet. It's not just the little things like Kane being missing when they play Spurs, such things are routine, It's monumental things like their Champions League win against Bayern Munich, or Terry's slip when they beat Chelsea or last year's run to the EL trophy which saved their bacon in terms of sponsorship. They are, as a romantic on here once posted, the turd that won't flush.

I hope I'm wrong and you are right. But 50 years of experience tells me never to write them off.
 
Damocles said:
The biggest annoyance of mine is something that's not just in the media but prevent on this forum too.

It's this idea that they are title challengers. They're not. They're not even close. Chelsea are our title rivals.

United are the only team I've ever seen to finish 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th yet be spoken about as if they're somehow a challenger. Im fact evidence suggests theyre getting worse. They're literally living off a name and loads of people including City fans buy into it
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Agree with every word. Top post.

Said last year they won’t make top 4 and didn’t. Said it again this year. Easy draws and luck can only get you so far when your squad is average. Lukaku and Pogba some of the most expensive footballers in history disappear in every big match. Is there anything more to say?

IMO it’s us, Chelsea, Spurs top 3 with Liverpool, rags, Arsenal battling for the 4th spot.
 
Damocles said:
The biggest annoyance of mine is something that's not just in the media but prevent on this forum too.

It's this idea that they are title challengers. They're not. They're not even close. Chelsea are our title rivals.

United are the only team I've ever seen to finish 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th yet be spoken about as if they're somehow a challenger. Im fact evidence suggests theyre getting worse. They're literally living off a name and loads of people including City fans buy into it
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I hear the mantra 'Jose will get us back to where we were' all the time from them.
They still don’t (or can’t) see that the single most important ingredient of the years of plenty has gone off to spend more time with his whisky,
and it’s not coming back.
 
Damocles said:
The biggest annoyance of mine is something that's not just in the media but prevent on this forum too.

It's this idea that they are title challengers. They're not. They're not even close. Chelsea are our title rivals.

United are the only team I've ever seen to finish 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th yet be spoken about as if they're somehow a challenger. Im fact evidence suggests theyre getting worse. They're literally living off a name and loads of people including City fans buy into it
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we'll see, if we keep doing our thing they won't be
 
I’m sorry if it annoys people but I do think they will be our nearest rivals
They have played 3 of top 6 and are 2nd 2 of those away. Whatever your take on Pogba and yes he’s overhyped but he’s one of THEIR better players who has been out for some time
I think they will roll the cannon fodder over like they have been doing and that will be enough to keep them in the mix
I see Chelsea slipping up more than they will so yep I think they will come 2nd
 
bluemc1 said:
I’m sorry if it annoys people but I do think they will be our nearest rivals
They have played 3 of top 6 and are 2nd 2 of those away. Whatever your take on Pogba and yes he’s overhyped but he’s one of THEIR better players who has been out for some time
I think they will roll the cannon fodder over like they have been doing and that will be enough to keep them in the mix
I see Chelsea slipping up more than they will so yep I think they will come 2nd
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Have to agree. Mouriniho will get them very close with his dull pragmatic football.
 
Damocles said:
The biggest annoyance of mine is something that's not just in the media but prevent on this forum too.

It's this idea that they are title challengers. They're not. They're not even close. Chelsea are our title rivals.

United are the only team I've ever seen to finish 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th yet be spoken about as if they're somehow a challenger. Im fact evidence suggests theyre getting worse. They're literally living off a name and loads of people including City fans buy into it
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tbf it’s was often ever thus, throughout the 80s this year was going to be their year, rag supporting sheep in the media have been promoting this bullshit for 40 years
 
bluemc1 said:
I’m sorry if it annoys people but I do think they will be our nearest rivals
They have played 3 of top 6 and are 2nd 2 of those away. Whatever your take on Pogba and yes he’s overhyped but he’s one of THEIR better players who has been out for some time
I think they will roll the cannon fodder over like they have been doing and that will be enough to keep them in the mix
I see Chelsea slipping up more than they will so yep I think they will come 2nd
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But chase down 8 points ? The way we playing,I don't see it,even if,and it is a big IF they manage to beat us,it's down to 5,I still don't see it,we won't lose many,(if any), this season,trust me,you will have different feelings when we win at the swamp and the points gap grows further
 
bluemc1 said:
I’m sorry if it annoys people but I do think they will be our nearest rivals
They have played 3 of top 6 and are 2nd 2 of those away. Whatever your take on Pogba and yes he’s overhyped but he’s one of THEIR better players who has been out for some time
I think they will roll the cannon fodder over like they have been doing and that will be enough to keep them in the mix
I see Chelsea slipping up more than they will so yep I think they will come 2nd
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I wouldn't disagree with that assessment. They don't look great against top 6 and have Arsenal away before us but I do think they will come second to us.
 
In fact what I should of added is we may well be even more than 8 points when we come to play them,let's face it,Huddersfield,Saints and West Ham should see us get 9 points,Utd have Brighton home,Watford away and Arsenal away before us,they may end up with a max of 4 points from those matches,they will lose at Arsenal
 
meeesh said:
But chase down 8 points ? The way we playing,I don't see it,even if,and it is a big IF they manage to beat us,it's down to 5,I still don't see it,we won't lose many,(if any), this season,trust me,you will have different feelings when we win at the swamp and the points gap grows further
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Not saying they will close the gap just that I think they will finish 2nd
If we win lose or draw next month I will feel the same
 
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