Jonny Evans

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Ric said:
I’m not particularly enamoured with this move, assuming it goes ahead, but as a fourth choice centre-half it’s a fairly pragmatic, if uninspiring, signing. I’m sure much of the opposition to it stems from who he used to play for.

I always hoped that Mangala would eventually come good, but I think that boat sailed a while ago. If Evans can ease the burden on Otamendi and Stones (and Kompany, to a lesser extent) then we should give him a chance, and judge him solely on how he performs for us.
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That's a very sound and rational take on it, and I agree. But being a pretty emotional guy, I'm currently more like:

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Neville Kneville said:
I'll give him every chance if he signs.

I just don't understand why I'm required to rather than us signing one of the other 50 cbs better than him. I assume it will also mean Kompany is being retired in the summer, otherwise we are not signing another top cb then either.
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I hope Kompany will be.

We can’t rely on him in the slightest sadly.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I'll give him every chance if he signs.

I just don't understand why I'm required to rather than us signing one of the other 50 cbs better than him. I assume it will also mean Kompany is being retired in the summer, otherwise we are not signing another top cb then either.
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Given the WC and the fact Kompany will be trying to get 2 games a week out of his body for Belgium I think its fair to say at very very best his involvement next season is questionable.... The only advantage I see in signing Evans is the fact that Pep will get the whole summer to work with him and won't be waiting until the week before the season to get him back.
 
Ric said:
I’m not particularly enamoured with this move, assuming it goes ahead, but as a fourth choice centre-half it’s a fairly pragmatic, if uninspiring, signing. I’m sure much of the opposition to it stems from who he used to play for.

I always hoped that Mangala would eventually come good, but I think that boat sailed a while ago. If Evans can ease the burden on Otamendi and Stones (and Kompany, to a lesser extent) then we should give him a chance, and judge him solely on how he performs for us.
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Agree Ric. Personally not excited at the prospect of him signing at all. Still hope we don’t. But he knows the premier league and nobody will convince me he isn’t a better option than Mangala. And with Stones out of form he may get a chance even sooner unless Vinny manages to get himself fit.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I just don't understand why I'm required to rather than us signing one of the other 50 cbs better than him.
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I guess the appeal with Evans is that he is available now, is familiar with the league so can hit the ground running, is left footed, comfortable in possession, and is happy to play a back up role. As you rightly point out, there are plenty of centre halves better than him but not sure many fit all those criteria.
 
Ric said:
I’m not particularly enamoured with this move, assuming it goes ahead, but as a fourth choice centre-half it’s a fairly pragmatic, if uninspiring, signing. I’m sure much of the opposition to it stems from who he used to play for.

I always hoped that Mangala would eventually come good, but I think that boat sailed a while ago. If Evans can ease the burden on Otamendi and Stones (and Kompany, to a lesser extent) then we should give him a chance, and judge him solely on how he performs for us.
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Would you be saying the same if we got Bury`s C/B


I`ve seen enough of him to form my own opinion over the years. This would be IMO a massively backward step. What with Vincents injuries, Evans, accord to some on here would get in before Mangala. Leaving us to pray to God Stones and Otamendi dont get injured,
 
Ric said:
I’m not particularly enamoured with this move, assuming it goes ahead, but as a fourth choice centre-half it’s a fairly pragmatic, if uninspiring, signing. I’m sure much of the opposition to it stems from who he used to play for.

I always hoped that Mangala would eventually come good, but I think that boat sailed a while ago. If Evans can ease the burden on Otamendi and Stones (and Kompany, to a lesser extent) then we should give him a chance, and judge him solely on how he performs for us.
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The Mangala boat never actually set sail Ric. Sunk before it left the dockside.
 
blue ranger said:
Agree Ric. Personally not excited at the prospect of him signing at all. Still hope we don’t. But he knows the premier league and nobody will convince me he isn’t a better option than Mangala. And with Stones out of form he may get a chance even sooner unless Vinny manages to get himself fit.
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When we bought Mangala the powers that be must have thought the were getting a very good C/B. Surely we are going backward yet again, another Sinclair type signing but with less talent.
 
I’ll tell you why this is a non starter. The first time he fucks up hes never ever going to forget it, nobody will let him. You all might say you’ll give him a chance but deep down, the minute he does something wrong it’s gonna be brought up.

He will never be accepted, not truly.
 
bobmcfc said:
I’ll tell you why this is a non starter. The first time he fucks up hes never ever going to forget it, nobody will let him. You all might say you’ll give him a chance but deep down, the minute he does something wrong it’s gonna be brought up.

He will never be accepted, not truly.
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I said the same earlier, our boo boys don't have a candidate at present and this will be like Sammy McIlroy all over again, every mistake will be groaned and moaned at and not just by a few.
 
johnnytapia said:
The Mangala boat never actually set sail Ric. Sunk before it left the dockside.
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It got a few yards from the shore after his debut against Chelsea, when he had Costa in his pocket. But that’s about as good as it got.
 
r.soleofsalford said:
When we bought Mangala the powers that be must have thought the were getting a very good C/B. Surely we are going backward yet again, another Sinclair type signing but with less talent.
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But as a 3rd or 4th choice centreback surely he will be good enough? And like I said I don’t want him. But 12 months ago we all thought Otamendi was rubbish and look at him now. All peps signings up to now ok, part from bravo.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I would reluctantly agree, if we sign JFE.

But I would much prefer us to sign one top quality cb to alternate with Stones & Ottamendi then use Vinny plus Tosin to make up the 4th between them.
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Yeah, personally I’d prefer that too but I can’t think of a top CB that we could acquire this window. Presumably the club think, rightly or wrongly, that it’s too risky to potentially jeopardise this season with the existing options.
 
urban genie said:
I said the same earlier, our boo boys don't have a candidate at present and this will be like Sammy McIlroy all over again, every mistake will be groaned and moaned at and not just by a few.
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It wouldn’t be so bad if the talent outweighed the negatives but his age, his price, the fact he’s nothing special, he’s a die hard red and his wife is too plus works for mutv. I hope he’s got a strong resolve because he’s got all that pressure on him
To suddenly be “world class” because anything less and he will be ripped to shreds I guarantee it
 
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