The unpopular objective thread

You've not watched 'the goal' enough. :)

The final whistle at Bolton meaning QPR were safe until about after the throw in on the touchline before before De Jong picks up the ball on goes on he's run. At about the time De Jong crosses the half way line the QPR bench start to celebrate but the players didn't know that. (Maybe a couple might have caught the reacton out of the corner of there eye but they were too busy trying to defend to notice.)

Also watch the reaction of the QPR defenders when we score the one on the corner of the box near Aguero bangs his hand down on the turf in dispair another boots the ball into the empty net in anger. Also watch the slow motion videos of the goal. here's one but there are better quality out there.



Also I've read interview with QPR defender not sure which one. One where Hughes says the cheer was the loudest he's every heard and he said he didn't know they where safe.


Fair enough. I stand corrected.
 
Football Forum posters, me included, have become addicted to debate about their club in a way that most football fans who don’t post on forums don’t have. Most fans I know don’t give a fuck about any of it once the game is over.
 
Football Forum posters, me included, have become addicted to debate about their club in a way that most football fans who don’t post on forums don’t have. Most fans I know don’t give a fuck about any of it once the game is over.
Isn't that the point of the forums though?
 
I still feel hugely annoyed at missing out on Sanchez to that shower of cünts. It's about time we smacked them down and paid proper money for a big name that they also want. For too long people have perceived them as 'bigger' and richer, now we finally have the money to outcompete them we seem to lack the bollocks to make a statement to the football world.

I wish Gary Cooke was still in charge of transfer negotiations.

I wish we had a gobshite PR team.

I wish we would spend what it takes to absolutely dominate this league and give us a realistic crack at winning two or three of the next five or six champions league finals. I think we have the money to do it, but do we have the ambition
 
Imagine you’re not a city fan for a second. What opinion do you hold that is controversial and wouldn’t go down well in the other threads?

Here’s mine..

I like Gary Neville and Carragher as pundits. I think in particular Neville has a understandable bias for the rags but does a good job as seeing other perspectives.

I rate rashford and think he’d be good at City

I don’t think the media campaign against us is as big as most people here seem to think

Time we lynched somebody at the top o' Joe Mercer way! Just to encourage the others, you understand! Or discourage the bastards. Neville? Carragher? These two would have to wear City shirts every time they appeared as pundits for me to consider giving them the time o' day!

I've long since passed through this kind of stuff, but when I was at primary school, I thought Duncan Edwards was great. I consider him the only Rag good enough to have played for City, but didn't!
 
This thread is great. My unpopular views..

SWP - was my fave player, left for Chelsea and I hated the bastard.. (not for leaving, we know the reasons were financial on our clubs behind), but he was off a bit too quickly for my liking - specifically he didn't thank or mention our fans for at least a few years. Always thought although he was talented that behind the boyish smiles, there was a lad that really didn't give too much of a shit. Came back for a payday and since then, never seen again..
 
I enjoyed City more in the Mancini era and those first six months under Pellers. Things seemed free and easy, a loss was just a loss and everything was new and exciting. Now we play great football and have better players, but this title race has begun to look like a slog and I don't enjoy it as much as I used to.
 
  • Mourinho is a very good manager and with a better squad United would be up there with us in the table
  • I rate both Pogba and De Gea
  • I think some posters on this forum are physically incapable of having a reasonable discussion about United which I think is a great shame
  • Klopp and Conte are good for the PL
  • Kane is nowhere near enough of a clutch player to be considered a world class footballer at present. Might be within a couple of years though. He's appropriately the Pochettino (as a manager) of players
  • Christian Eriksen would make a great Silva replacement
  • Our most complete and best performance this season was in the 1st half away at Feyenoord
  • I don't give a shit about atmosphere, singing, early leavers etc. And I think it's lame when supporters have a go at other supporters for not being good enough fans. Particularly ones that pay for tickets and go to matches.
  • Delph is a tad overrated. Not for his performances, but for his actual level of ability.
  • Sterling is still really underrated
  • Danilo is an easy target because he's new
  • Walker has been our best player this season after KDB
  • People still don't understand what it is Jesus does and it's annoying to read that 'He runs a lot and only scores tap ins'
  • In fact, people still don't understand that most of the actual work we do on the pitch is off the ball
  • Otamendi is also still underrated somehow
  • Silva has had just as many problems linking up as any other player has with Sane. In fact, it's annoying how often it isn't Sane's fault
  • People seem to forget how young the likes of Sane, Sterling, Bernardo, Ederson, and Jesus are at times (and I'm sure Mendy too when he's back)
  • "We need a big man to get on the end of all these crosses" - We absolutely don't
  • Aguero is clearly over the hill and doesn't fit into the way we play, and the way some people turn a blind eye to it is embarrassing
  • Despite that, he's still a sensational player who in the right (maybe not big) games is the perfect player for us and the way people have got on his back is equally embarrassing. You can be critical without being a dick
  • Bravo has got A LOT of unfair stick this season from certain quarters for someone who's not done that much wrong
  • Foden is way better than Diaz is right now
  • Diaz has far more potential than Foden though and is much more likely to make it at City
  • As excellent as they are, football simulation games like FM are not scouts and people need to realize that
  • My most out there and controversial idea, but I believe Pep in his ideal world has chosen Sterling to be heir apparent to Silva
  • I believe I was the first or one of the first on the player thread to question Ederson's positioning. I regret it.
  • I think it's weird that people get upset that football clubs are run as businesses
  • Anyone who is against anything progressive just because it's new shouldn't be in the football media (Tyler's comments on not being able to get excited for a goal just because of VAR were saddening)
  • Any pundit that blames zonal marking alone for conceding from a set piece also shouldn't be in the football media
  • Refereeing incompetence is magnifying due to the increasing speed of the game, not corruption
  • The academy is there to produce talented footballers. It successes come down to how many make it at higher levels, not how many make it for City (Like the class of 08)
  • Am I the only person who saw the deflection on SWP's goal off the crossbar in the 4-1?
  • I'd take Berkovic over Benarbia if I had to choose
  • Even United fans hate Duncan Castles
  • Speaking of Castles, he's an irritating example of a potentially good journalist ruining himself due to his biases. He often makes very good points and I think he has it in him to be a great journalist. But it's his ability to write well and intelligently combined with these biases that makes him a great evil on the game instead. Custis too to a lesser extent, although he's a weaker writer
  • Alyson Rudd however is simply a very bad journalist. I wouldn't count on her to be able to tell me the time correctly. The fact she's so blatantly bad means she's less harmful.
  • I like both Sam Lee and Sammy Lee
  • And lastly, I never liked being the butt of every joke from United fans at every stage of my life before 2012. But for that reason I try not to take the piss out of them now, as I'm not the eye for an eye kind of guy (But that's just me. I don't want to impose this idea)
Great post. Man, you read my thoughts :) Except that 'Sterling as Silva's heir' bit, it's weird at best. Best mids are being moulded for that role from grassroots, it's hardly possible to convert a winger/AM like Sterling, on top level at least. And I would add Martial to the list of Utd's worldclass talents.
 
QPR did down tools when they knew they were safe. The loud roar from the away end told them everything.

We got very lucky in 2011/12. United throwing away an eight point lead with six to play simply doesn’t happen on a regular basis. We were found out the following season as a club throughout.

Mancini’s spats with Tevez and Balotelli amongst others were plain embarrassing. Team spirit is so much better now.
 
  • The Abu Dhabi regime's human rights record is a stain on the club despite the mental gymnastics people do to distance the two.
  • Vincent Kompany has never been a good captain for us and instead added to the nervous energy that permeates the ground when we're under the kosh.
  • Our Academy is nothing more than a PR campaign because it doesn't produce players for our first team squad - whatever the reasons for that, and the "but it's new!" excuse is a very poor one.
  • Jim Cassell and many others were prematurely abandoned because they didn't visually look like the type of person we wanted at the club despite vast knowledge and experience.
  • The club doesn't give a shit about us as fans but more importantly, it never did either.
  • For all of the apparent greatness we have, this team falls apart without David Silva and there's nobody in world football who can replace him. And now he's 32.
  • Yaya will be remembered with rose tinted glasses as his terrible and lazy performances are forgotten but he doesn't give a shit about City and never has past how much we're paying him - although he'll act the part post-retirement hoping to land a cushy job somewhere and we'll call him a "Legend" in the same way that you "love" your ex-wife or ex-husband.
  • I like New York City FC and think the CFG is a nice concept that makes me interested in other leagues and have a "home team" somewhat to follow. I don't give a shit about the rest of the stuff, it just makes me watch more football with an interest.
  • Our shirts are terrible and have been since Umbro who we never should have moved on from (forcibly so, admittedly).
  • We ARE the best team in Premier League history and it's not even a close competition, no matter what happens in the leagues and CL. Nobody has ever played anything like what we're playing and it's showing a lot of Little Englanders that their precious Premier League is all marketing and no different from any other league in the world.
  • A fan who watches the matches on TV in Nigeria is just as big and important a fan as you are and this "but I'm a local fan" stuff is small time bollocks.
  • Raheem Sterling is constantly criticised because he's black.
  • Txiki Begiristain was one of the best post-takeover signings we've ever made and 95% of the people who criticise him don't even know what it is that he does and are doing it as a meme.
  • People in the Transfer Forum rate players primarily on Football Manager, FIFA and things they've heard other people say. No, you haven't watched Pissbutchio playing in the Slovakian league enough to rate him comparatively to John Stones, sit down.
  • John Stones is a better defender than everybody we've had post-takeover not named Kompany or Otamendi even without his passing ability.
  • Along the same lines, Lescott is the most overrated former player we've ever had and he was Mangalaesque at times. People have forgotten the "Liability Lescott" tag.
  • QPR threw the game at 2-2 when they knew they were safe. We all know it.
  • Jadon Sancho is a bottle merchant who didn't fancy himself to compete against Jesus and he'll never be a top player because he lacks the courage to be one.
  • People who hark back to the "good old days" when we were crap are remembering a time that doesn't exist. Being a City fan was fucking shit for most of the past 30 years before the takeover and I refuse to believe anybody actually enjoyed going every week and watching us get fucking twatted by Swindon or some other bunch of plodders. I was there too, it was wank.
  • With modern day training, diet and coaching, Kinkladze would be a £100m player and it would be cheap at that. Stop being scared to say this because rags might take the piss.
  • Our matchgoing fanbase is way too old and it is a contributing factor in the atmosphere.
Ok guys I'd better be off for a week, see you later!

It's not often I get to say I agree with Damo but for the points in bold...yup.

The rest of it is tosh. Utter tosh.


Vincent is a leader, maybe not always on the pitch but definitely off it. Club captain as it were.

Yaya performed in the big games, the games we needed to win, the games we struggled in. Someone needed to stand up and be counted. He did that. Palace away...etc etc.

I couldn't give a fuck about any of our so called "other" teams. One team. Us.

Sterling is criticised, wrongly in my opinion, for his flitting in and out of games and ability to find the wrong pass at the wrong time. Fuck all with his colour. To suggest otherwise is the words of a deranged fool. You also can't argue with his goals this season.

QPR threw the game? More like fell apart near the end due to the effort they put in for the other 90 minutes. Laughable to suggest otherwise.

Aaaah...the good old days. Being a City fan for the last 46 years has mostly been crap but I had far more fun, ups and downs, great away day moments, stories, tears and everything else that football should be before we got really good and started winning stuff. Nowadays the fans feel more distant than ever. It might be win, win, win, draw, win, draw these days but it doesn't connect with a lot of fans. Other fans of other teams used to like us, we were most people's second favourite club because we weren't United. Most other fans now dislike us as much.
Don't get me wrong, I like us winning stuff, but football these days is starting to leave me cold. Too much of it about. On every medium. There was something very nice about 1 league game a week, on a Saturday, plus the odd midweek cup game. There's always a collective "phew" on this forum when we hit 40 points in a season. It's a joke I know but it harks back to a better time. A time when football tugged at your heart strings. Now it just tugs at your wallet.
 
  • As much as I hate the scum I am fond of Mata, De Gea, Martial, Valencia and Rashford. I still want them all to fail miserably and the rest I utterly detest.

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I still feel hugely annoyed at missing out on Sanchez to that shower of cünts. It's about time we smacked them down and paid proper money for a big name that they also want. For too long people have perceived them as 'bigger' and richer, now we finally have the money to outcompete them we seem to lack the bollocks to make a statement to the football world.

I wish Gary Cooke was still in charge of transfer negotiations.

I wish we had a gobshite PR team.

I wish we would spend what it takes to absolutely dominate this league and give us a realistic crack at winning two or three of the next five or six champions league finals. I think we have the money to do it, but do we have the ambition

I agree though you know if we'd paid what the rags allegedly have we'd be barred from the League,be talked about on BBC Question Time before being pilloried at PMQ's.
 
Good thread this, I like it.

For me, the collective football knowledge/wisdom of this forum is absolutely abysmal and a stain on the game of football.

We had Balotelli down as world class (he's found his level at Nice) and we had Mangala down as world class (I was banned twice for pointing out that they were both dreadful - but I nevertheless have a soft spot for Manga). And it's no surprise to see the same people who thought both of the above opinions now think that Kompany was average. If I was Ric, I would have seriously closed the forum down.

Also, I think a lot of people like listening to Gary Neville on this forum so I guess I'm in a minority when I say I think he's a biased ****, constantly peddling the narrative about our tactical fouls.
Lol.
 
The atmosphere is shit and it’s pretty much all down to the supporters
Nike are shit but the owners don’t care about the fans
Txiki greatness is myth based on a chequebook and his mate pep helping him out
We have underachieved since the takeover
Our youth academy is a profit making scheme the same as Chelsea
The obsession with the rags is embarrassing
The obsession with the media is embarrassing
Mangala has been treated poorly by pep
Sterling will never be a natural goal scorer
Red cafe have less biased posters than bluemoon
The match day thread accurately mirrors what is wrong with society
We don’t owe our owners any gratitude so putting them on a pedestal is desperately sad
Besides the stadium atmosphere issue ( I can't tell from my telly)
I likeand agree with most of this
 

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