Machiavelli
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No they were proposed initially to prevent clubs being burdened with debt.
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But somehow debt was never part of the rules that came into force. I wonder why that could've happened.No they were proposed initially to prevent clubs being burdened with debt.
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The idea was to stop clubs going bust due to debt - but then Utd, Barca, Real and Bayern hijacked it. And debt was ignored.No they were proposed initially to prevent clubs being burdened with debt.
Machiavelli
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But somehow debt was never part of the rules that came into force. I wonder why that could've happened.
Can someone tell @LFC-Fans that. I thought they were the most knowledgeable fans in world football? The ones who post on here haven’t got a clue. Ignorant, ill informed KFA’s.The idea was to stop clubs going bust due to debt - but then Utd, Barca, Real and Bayern hijacked it. And debt was ignored.
Maybe it's just me but as the UEFA CL is by invite I'd gladly tell them to shove the invite up their arses. Concentrate on winning the domestic treble every season.
Unfortunately top players want to play in the corrupt competition so it's not really a goer.
Unfortunately top players want to play in the corrupt competition so it's not really a goer.
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LFC are worse hit than we are at the moment. They couldn't have signed VVD without selling Coutinho.Well they don’t affect us the most. They were invented to try that but it didn’t happen, have you seen how strong we and PSG have become? What a stupid ill informed assumption. Lots of other clubs are struggling with FFP and the inability to gain significant investment due to the silly restrictions invented to try and stop the “Arab owned” clubs who dicks can’t separate due to the owners ethnicity.
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Just put a salary cap in place that is equal for every single club. It's really not that hard.
Machiavelli
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Indeed, if only they could find a loophole to exploit. FFP made us stronger, smarter and more strategic than the dickheads would’ve ever imagined possible.LC are worse hit than we are at the moment. They couldn't have signed VVD without selling Coutinho.
Machiavelli
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It’s not, and has never been about “Fair Play”. It’s about maintaining the old status quo.Just put a salary cap in place that is equal for every single club. It's really not that hard.
On the 25 players surely that gives clubs with b teams such as Barca a big advantage.
The CFG is the only danger we face but any new rules would be difficult to write.
This 100 million may reduce transfer fees, but will increase wages, agent fees.
What happens when you get a 80 million pound player for 35, you spend the rest in wages and fees.
There is also more to a transfer then the fee. Say we sold a 20 million pound player for 25 million on the condition we paid all the fees and a larger then normal loyalty bonus to the player so he would accept a lower wage with his new club. As opposed to accepting a lower fee of 15 million, so the new club can pay more in salaries.
The CFG is the only danger we face but any new rules would be difficult to write.
This 100 million may reduce transfer fees, but will increase wages, agent fees.
What happens when you get a 80 million pound player for 35, you spend the rest in wages and fees.
There is also more to a transfer then the fee. Say we sold a 20 million pound player for 25 million on the condition we paid all the fees and a larger then normal loyalty bonus to the player so he would accept a lower wage with his new club. As opposed to accepting a lower fee of 15 million, so the new club can pay more in salaries.
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Come on - you know that's not the point.Just put a salary cap in place that is equal for every single club. It's really not that hard.
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Lol! Indeed! So Madrid and Barca can have 75-100 players playing for 3-4 teams, [almost] freely moving between them, albeit with some restrictions. While English clubs would be limited to 25))) @aguero93:20On the 25 players surely that gives clubs with b teams such as Barca a big advantage.
The CFG is the only danger we face but any new rules would be difficult to write.
This 100 million may reduce transfer fees, but will increase wages, agent fees.
What happens when you get a 80 million pound player for 35, you spend the rest in wages and fees.
There is also more to a transfer then the fee. Say we sold a 20 million pound player for 25 million on the condition we paid all the fees and a larger then normal loyalty bonus to the player so he would accept a lower wage with his new club. As opposed to accepting a lower fee of 15 million, so the new club can pay more in salaries.
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As I said, sold to Girona, Breda, Fleetwood whoever for £1, bought back for £2.Lol! Indeed! So Madrid and Barca can have 75-100 players playing for 3-4 teams, [almost] freely moving between them, albeit with some restrictions. While English clubs would be limited to 25))) @aguero93:20
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UEFA will argue that it's not market prices and force City to sell players by auction, to the highest bidder)))As I said, sold to Girona, Breda, Fleetwood whoever for £1, bought back for £2.
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This might actually (in the unlikely event they get it passed) result in the PL clubs forcing the FL ones to accept B and C teams.UEFA will argue that it's not market prices and force City to sell players by auction, to the highest bidder)))
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Just put a salary cap in place that is equal for every single club. It's really not that hard.
But that would make for much more equality between clubs, which is the absolute last thing they want.
They could do all kinds of things to limit the advantage of the big clubs if they wanted to.
They don't want to, they just want to hit a few of them, who aren't welcome at the party.
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I can’t believe after all we’ve seen regarding FFP, blues can’t see it for what it is.But that would make for much more equality between clubs, which is the absolute last thing they want.
They could do all kinds of things to limit the advantage of the big clubs if they wanted to.
They don't want to, they just want to hit a few of them, who aren't welcome at the party.
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If anyone has any doubts in that particular regard, they should remember that exclusions for new ownership were brought into play as soon as AC Milan and Inter were in need of new investment and were worded specifically to prohibit ourselves and PSG making use of them.I can’t believe after all we’ve seen regarding FFP, blues can’t see it for what it is.
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But that would make for much more equality between clubs, which is the absolute last thing they want.
They could do all kinds of things to limit the advantage of the big clubs if they wanted to.
They don't want to, they just want to hit a few of them, who aren't welcome at the party.
yhp, they just want to stop us pulling away, and the La Liga numpties think this will just mean every on a big release clause will be unobtainable now, forgetting the legal changes which could tear the whole thing up anyway.
Can someone tell @LFC-Fans that. I thought they were the most knowledgeable fans in world football? The ones who post on here haven’t got a clue. Ignorant, ill informed KFA’s.
Are you ok?
I never claimed to know FFP inside out. But I’m interested to listen to those who do and learn.
From what i can remember FFP was brought in to stop clubs spending more than they make? But since then it’s all been a bit of a disaster? Is that right?
Why are you getting so offensive?