West Brom Post Match Thread

Oh, and the next wanker who tells me we've been lucky with injuries is getting some. We've had midfielders filling in as left back most of the bloody season, and the depth of the squad is now being tested. One game at a time.
 
The most satisfying thing about last night for me is that it showed the "IT'S A RISK TO PLAY A KID FOR 20 MINS AT 2-0 UP" crowd how bollocks that incredibly naff opinion is. Is it fuck. Playing an exceptionally talented kid, especially out wide for 30 mins, basically offers next to no risk. The worst that happens is that they're a bit quiet and that's basically about it. Brahim is quite clearly an exceptionally talented young player and letting him settle into this team should be relatively high on the priority list at the moment given the current injuries.

I’m so bored of the ‘what if sergio, sterling and bernardo got injured? What then?’ kinda arguments too. It’s ‘what if’ nonsense, and it’s relatively self-entitled too. We’ll just have to deal with it, like every other team should have to. I’d have loved Mahrez, as he’s quality, but I am not in anyway disappointed that we might have to find a solution that doesn’t cost £80m. You can’t throw money at every problem and using a young lad to get us through the tougher moments will, in my eyes at least, actually add a bit more value to our successes. It makes it that little bit sweeter.

Managers should have to manage and make do sometimes, and there’s no one better at finding a solution than Pep. I’m so glad he put Brahim on relatively early last night. He did exactly what he had to do when he had to. It was notable in my opinion too that because he had more than four minutes he was a lot more assured in possession. He didn’t give the ball away as much, cos he wasn’t as eager to make an impression. He felt settled and a lot less over-excited. The more he plays, the more he’ll feel at home. He’s a special little player with absolutely bags of desire and exceptional work rate. I’m glad he might get his chance.

Spot on twosips!
 
He's tough though & now, is reaching the stage where he can bounce adults off him like he has elder kids, throughout his time at City. Each step up in age group, has taken him a while to adjust to the different pace & physicality & he starts as the little terrier who gets pushed off the ball & gets kicked around, then becomes a highly skilled pit bull, who you can't push anywhere.

He's just making that transition now, with the first team.

He certainly appears to be tenacious and brave. I don't know the medical science on this but I assume his body is still developing and that he will (need to) get stronger.
 
I wouldn't say "shit", because it's made us money from player sales and the crop coming through now have obviously been nurtured for years. But it's taken a while to start bearing fruit, now it is doing and we are really seeing the benefits this season.

It's 'bearing fruits' simply because the manager has played them.

Diaz & Foden may turn out to be the best kids we have ever had.

But those who were second best, were pretty fucking good.

A talented young player not making it, is not something that should be put down exclusively to the player. It's our job as a club to try & make them better.

Pep imo, is the first manager to actually give a shit about doing that.
 
I wouldn't say "shit", because it's made us money from player sales and the crop coming through now have obviously been nurtured for years. But it's taken a while to start bearing fruit, now it is doing and we are really seeing the benefits this season.
we will only get credit when the England team rely on our players, and yes I know we have some there already, but we don't provide them with the stars yet.
 
He’s built like that argie that plays in Spain. Lionel something or other

I’ve been saying it for 2 years that this kid is going to be special, and I’m even more convinced now after seeing the 2 or 3 cameo appearances he’s made

Messi weighs a little more and a few kg of extra muscle wouldn't do Diaz any harm but they are very similar. I am just wondering if you have to be a bit more careful in terms of the physical development of a young player when they are small...
 
He chose to play Boyata. Then he dropped him, for ages, then stuck him back in, away from home in a European game, then dropped him for ages, then stuck him back in, at Old Trafford in a league cup semi final.

And just how did he do in that European game & semi final ?

He wasn't 'given them', he chose to waste our money on them, when he couldn't get his difficult targets, rather than do what Pep is doing, keep the money & look to spend it on quality.

Mancini signed none of them, that was down to our "Directors of football" , Roberto was far from happy and proved right as history shows.
 
Players not making it at other clubs, is the excuse for a shit academy system & timid jobsworth managers, throughout the Premier League.

Ours has been no different. Predicting a player's future as an axcuse not to give him ten minutes on the pitch, is just a sad excuse, as is the complete bollocks hat it 'harms' the team.

Delph is a good example of someone of medium talent, who is playing a key role in what could be the best side ever to play in this country. It's unlikely he would have shone, if he'd been in City's U18s.

Now we have a proper manager, I am optimistic things will change.

Actually I think Delph would have shone in our U18's. Delph was always a better player than a whole host of our supporters would allow. Pep didn't wave a magic wand over Delph and suddenly imbue him with ability he never possessed in the first place.
 
He certainly appears to be tenacious and brave. I don't know the medical science on this but I assume his body is still developing and that he will (need to) get stronger.

I assume he'll get stronger irrespective of whether his body is still developing, just for the fact of playing football & trainig as an adult. If you look at Aguero when we signed him, although a 'stocky' figure he still became even more solid.
 
And Pep mentioned again last night, that Zinchenko is a No 10, playing out of position, & he was also happy to play Foden, as a 'wingback' !

We know we have seen plenty of players who could have played games for City & this is just proving it.

If only Pep had arrived a few years earlier.

It's great. Fair fucks to Pep. At least he has the balls to do it. I don't think Pep has been perfect so far, but there are some encouraging signs and I like to think that if backed into a corner he will do the right thing. There is some evidence to suggest he will. We've got a no.10 that we paid a Ukrainian side £1.7m for playing at LB. You've got to enjoy that really... it's a bit weird but inherently fun. As far as im concerned, I don't really care where they play as long as they get on.
 
just seen the ferna challenge,i reckon he will get a retrospective ban for that ,as for the "tackles" on kdb and diaz,why don't they give retrospective even though they have already been given yellows.
 
Trippier and Ben Mee were both released by that dogs bastard hughes, both shone in our youth team and for my money I would have resigned Tripier over Walker while Ben Mee is the kind of clever player (And a natural leader) who could have fit into a Pep team with ease.
It makes far more sense to bring players up to a level where they go out on loan and get game time,

IIRC correctly - based on genuine insider knowledge - Sturridge mostly left because of Hughes and not because he is one greedy bartender.
 
And Pep mentioned again last night, that Zinchenko is a No 10, playing out of position, & he was also happy to play Foden, as a 'wingback' !

We know we have seen plenty of players who could have played games for City & this is just proving it.

If only Pep had arrived a few years earlier.

There probably were players who could have played and done a job but I think it is also true that the quality of players coming out of the academy has improved.
 
just seen the ferna challenge,i reckon he will get a retrospective ban for that ,as for the "tackles" on kdb and diaz,why don't they give retrospective even though they have already been given yellows.

Its how they hide behind the Yellow. The ref has seen it and should have given a Red. Shocking! we must ask the FA to explain the decisions. I expect a wave of City players getting sent off. The bias has now become too obvious and people are asking questions that are not City related.
 
Mancini signed none of them, that was down to our "Directors of football" , Roberto was far from happy and proved right as history shows.

It's not history that shows it, it's bollocks that shows it.

Mancini himself absolutely admitted that he signed those players, even at a time when he was blaming the club officials for everything. He admitted to having 'chased' Rodwell for some time, even at the end. It's total bullshit to blame others for it.

If people think City could have persuaded DeRossi etc to come here, that's one thing, but the idea that our dof, just randomly spent a load of money on shite players, for the sake of it, is absolutely fucking ridiculous. He has nothing whatsoever to gain by it, other than the sack.

Pep's one lapse in that regard, has been JFE.

The other managers were always looking for squad players, if they couldn't get their targets, or even signing squad players as their targets. Rather than just keeping the money.

Pep showed last night how it works: he told city "If you can get Laporte, do it!" but they had told him, the deals have to be within the budget.

His reaction: Fully understands either way.

Mancini's: toys out of pram, we must sign players.

No comparison.
 
There probably were players who could have played and done a job but I think it is also true that the quality of players coming out of the academy has improved.

I don't believe so.

I don't go anymore, but from what I've seen, I think the group from a few years ago, was better, with the exception of one or two stars.

I also think Jason Denayer could have been as good as the cbs we have now, if Pep had him at 18.
 
It's not history that shows it, it's bollocks that shows it.

Mancini himself absolutely admitted that he signed those players, even at a time when he was blaming the club officials for everything. He admitted to having 'chased' Rodwell for some time, even at the end. It's total bullshit to blame others for it.

If people think City could have persuaded DeRossi etc to come here, that's one thing, but the idea that our dof, just randomly spent a load of money on shite players, for the sake of it, is absolutely fucking ridiculous. He has nothing whatsoever to gain by it, other than the sack.

Pep's one lapse in that regard, has been JFE.

The other managers were always looking for squad players, if they couldn't get their targets, or even signing squad players as their targets. Rather than just keeping the money.

Pep showed last night how it works: he told city "If you can get Laporte, do it!" but they had told him, the deals have to be within the budget.

His reaction: Fully understands either way.

Mancini's: toys out of pram, we must sign players.

No comparison.
What budget ??
 
Actually I think Delph would have shone in our U18's. Delph was always a better player than a whole host of our supporters would allow. Pep didn't wave a magic wand over Delph and suddenly imbue him with ability he never possessed in the first place.

Delph has always been a good player. But we had good players ourselves.

I firmly believe some of them, had they been in similar circumstances to Delph, would have been as good or better.

He got the right advancement in football, ours played against kids, for years.
 

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