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citytilllidie
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I thought it was possibly some kind of sports braI think it was mentioned on Bill and Ben.
Mikejl
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They’ll be uproar when Scott McPogba beats Sane & Sterling to the Young player awardJudging by the published articles on the Football Writers POTS, The Prince will walk that with 50%+ of the vote and Merlin and Salah jostling for 2nd place a way behind. Players POTS on the other hand - who knows...
Sean Dyche for manager of the season........showing the world good 'ole English football (lump it forward for flick on) still rules! And he's spent pennies you know!
I think the only other possible candidate(runner up) would be Hodgson.
Don't really care for the fella, but taking a team without a goal let alone a point to relative safety in just over 20 games is pretty impressive.
Guardiola has changed football in this country and for me, I think he'll get every vote but Castles, Curtis & Rudd.
Im not sure 2 points of the relegation zone is relative safety, they could easily still go. Hodgson is a disgrace of a manager after his shambles last euros and should never be considered for any award.I think the only other possible candidate(runner up) would be Hodgson.
Don't really care for the fella, but taking a team without a goal let alone a point to relative safety in just over 20 games is pretty impressive.
Guardiola has changed football in this country and for me, I think he'll get every vote but Castles, Curtis & Rudd.
Im not sure 2 points of the relegation zone is relative safety, they could easily still go. Hodgson is a disgrace of a manager after his shambles last euros and should never be considered for any award.
Not interested in what he did for England.
What he's done at Palace this season is impressive. For me, the second most impressive manager this season. He's got 30 points from 23 games with a dog shit squad with zero confidence and a hideous start.
Guardiola will and should walk it.
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oakiecokie
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You mean just like a certain Chilean manager who should have also walked it.Some fucker from mid table will probably win it, unless Pep gets the treble.Wouldn`t trust any of the fuckers who determine the winner,based on previous results mate.Not interested in what he did for England.
What he's done at Palace this season is impressive. For me, the second most impressive manager this season. He's got 30 points from 23 games with a dog shit squad with zero confidence and zero confidence.
Guardiola will and should walk it.
Neville Kneville
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Not interested in what he did for England.
What he's done at Palace this season is impressive. For me, the second most impressive manager this season. He's got 30 points from 23 games with a dog shit squad with zero confidence and zero confidence.
Guardiola will and should walk it.
I've never been a fan, but I must admit, Roy has done well with the pile of shite at his disposal & he hasn't done it by pure bus parking, he has tried to also have an attacking threat. When they played us, I was about to post 'fair play' to them for their efforts, then that wanker dived in the box & KDB had his legs scythed off.
But Roy has done a much better & better to watch, job than the others imo.
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In some ways it will be positive if Pep does not win it...
It will highlight and show the complete bias of the award and totally
discredit it once and for all. It will be shown up for what it is and have no value or
currency whatsoever (that's if it does has any value or currency currently?). It
will become a complete & total mockery / non event in the future.
It is simply not possible for any other manager to be given the award ahead of Pep and they all know it.
They will embarrass themselves (if that is possible) on scale previously unseen.
It will highlight and show the complete bias of the award and totally
discredit it once and for all. It will be shown up for what it is and have no value or
currency whatsoever (that's if it does has any value or currency currently?). It
will become a complete & total mockery / non event in the future.
It is simply not possible for any other manager to be given the award ahead of Pep and they all know it.
They will embarrass themselves (if that is possible) on scale previously unseen.
You mean just like a certain Chilean manager who should have also walked it.Some fucker from mid table will probably win it, unless Pep gets the treble.Wouldn`t trust any of the fuckers who determine the winner,based on previous results mate.
I see where you're coming from regards Pellegrini & worse Mancini. But Guardiola is changing football here. Pundits & media are now seeing it. I don't see how any other manager could be considered, unless you're Custis, Rudd or Castles.
PannickAtTheDisco
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I've never been a fan, but I must admit, Roy has done well with the pile of shite at his disposal & he hasn't done it by pure bus parking, he has tried to also have an attacking threat. When they played us, I was about to post 'fair play' to them for their efforts, then that wanker dived in the box & KDB had his legs scythed off.
But Roy has done a much better & better to watch, job than the others imo.
and then handed the rags a win when they were 2-0 up in blatant fashion. Hope Palace go down. I also don't think that squad is anywhere near as bad as suggested, they just decided to bring in De Boer and give him a squad that was completely incapable of playing anywhere near his style, Hodgson has returned to type and they've done ok. 30 points from 23 games is nothing special, and they've also been given 8 penalties since Woy took over, to put in context we've only had 6 all season. I think Palace's season has been more than a little political.
Gabriel
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What Chris Hughton and David Wagner have done is simply phenomenal. Without the well-oiled machinery of the super rich teams, they have defied all the odds to keep their teams in the top flight, and they have done it playing attractive football.
Quite sure we'll be hearing some of that drivel in the coming weeks. 'Well-oiled' is the very thinly disguised dig at us, one that seems to be increasingly used by certain hacks.
Quite sure we'll be hearing some of that drivel in the coming weeks. 'Well-oiled' is the very thinly disguised dig at us, one that seems to be increasingly used by certain hacks.
oakiecokie
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It shouldn`t really be a debate mate ... but I still don`t trust the fookers.I see where you're coming from regards Pellegrini & worse Mancini. But Guardiola is changing football here. Pundits & media are now seeing it. I don't see how any other manager could be considered, unless you're Custis, Rudd or Castles.
Neville Kneville
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and then handed the rags a win when they were 2-0 up in blatant fashion. Hope Palace go down. I also don't think that squad is anywhere near as bad as suggested, they just decided to bring in De Boer and give him a squad that was completely incapable of playing anywhere near his style, Hodgson has returned to type and they've done ok. 30 points from 23 games is nothing special, and they've also been given 8 penalties since Woy took over, to put in context we've only had 6 all season. I think Palace's season has been more than a little political.
Utd got away with it v Palace, as they do, but probably wouldn't have, had Zaha been playing rather than that Norwegian stump.
In fact, they might have got a right fucking over.
PannickAtTheDisco
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Utd got away with it v Palace, as they do, but probably wouldn't have, had Zaha been playing rather than that Norwegian stump.
In fact, they might have got a right fucking over.
they would have anyway if Palace hadn't decided at 2-0 up "oh, well we can't actually win this so we'll stop defending and just give Matic the freedom of south London to let the ball bounce twice before shooting, because we don't actually want to get a result tonight".
and then handed the rags a win when they were 2-0 up in blatant fashion. Hope Palace go down. I also don't think that squad is anywhere near as bad as suggested, they just decided to bring in De Boer and give him a squad that was completely incapable of playing anywhere near his style, Hodgson has returned to type and they've done ok. 30 points from 23 games is nothing special, and they've also been given 8 penalties since Woy took over, to put in context we've only had 6 all season. I think Palace's season has been more than a little political.
To be 2-0 up with their injuries and position was a good effort. They didn't hand the rags anything. They ran them close, actually attacking them(something Pullis, Alladyve, Pardew, Hughes) would never do. They were just dead on their feet and lost to a once in a season fluke.
30 points from 23 games is the same as 1.3 points per game, that would be 50 over a season. That is a good achievement from where they were.
As to not derail the thread, Guardiola will win it hands down. He's revolutionised English football.
He is simply miles in front of the next best this sesdon(Hodgson for me) and light years ahead of his peers.
If we go through against Liverpool, could be an unbelievable season with unbelievable football. Something all hacks will recognise.
Neville Kneville
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they would have anyway if Palace hadn't decided at 2-0 up "oh, well we can't actually win this so we'll stop defending and just give Matic the freedom of south London to let the ball bounce twice before shooting, because we don't actually want to get a result tonight".
They lost because they are not very good & were over excited at the prospect of beating the scum & it affected their game. Same thing regularly happens to Arsenal & Liverpool & Spurs.
Which is why Roy has done pretty well with them imo, to get them to give some better sides a game, even when they have lost.
PannickAtTheDisco
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They lost because they are not very good & were over excited at the prospect of beating the scum & it affected their game. Same thing regularly happens to Arsenal & Liverpool & Spurs.
Which is why Roy has done pretty well with them imo, to get them to give some better sides a game, even when they have lost.
point-blankly refusing to close down Matic to me is throwing in the towel, deliberately so because there's no excuse at 2-2 not to put your body on the line no matter how tired you are to block that ball. It bounced twice. They were good enough to be 2-0 up, trundling to make half-blocks and bad defending from that point on isn't being over-excited.
PannickAtTheDisco
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To be 2-0 up with their injuries and position was a good effort. They didn't hand the rags anything. They ran them close, actually attacking them(something Pullis, Alladyve, Pardew, Hughes) would never do. They were just dead on their feet and lost to a once in a season fluke.
30 points from 23 games is the same as 1.3 points per game, that would be 50 over a season. That is a good achievement from where they were.
As to not derail the thread, Guardiola will win it hands down. He's revolutionised English football.
He is simply miles in front of the next best this sesdon(Hodgson for me) and light years ahead of his peers.
If we go through against Liverpool, could be an unbelievable season with unbelievable football. Something all hacks will recognise.
Except they won't do it over 38 games, like they haven't done it over 23 games, they got 21 from 12 games in a great run and have then taken 3 from 15. They had a purple patch which many teams can have. Swansea have taken 18 from 10 games, Bournemouth have taken 20 from 12, Watford took 15 from 8 at the start of the season, Brighton have taken 11 from 6 and took 16 from 10 at the start of the season, Burnley took 32 from the first 18. Most of these teams have good runs, and then go multiple games without winning, that's why the bottom half is so tight. It's only the anomalies of West Brom that don't that are the exception, the majority have good spells and bad runs, Palace just had a particularly awful run at the start, but nothing they've done since considering they've had 8 penalties, dived a lot and have Benteke, Zaha, Townsend, Cabaye, Milvojevic, Sakho, Loftus-Cheek etc. and have spent at least £120m in the past 2 seasons, is particularly remarkable.
Except they won't do it over 38 games, like they haven't done it over 23 games, they got 21 from 12 games in a great run and have then taken 3 from 15. They had a purple patch which many teams can have. Swansea have taken 18 from 10 games, Bournemouth have taken 20 from 12, Watford took 15 from 8 at the start of the season, Brighton have taken 11 from 6 and took 16 from 10 at the start of the season, Burnley took 32 from the first 18. Most of these teams have good runs, and then go multiple games without winning, that's why the bottom half is so tight. It's only the anomalies of West Brom that don't that are the exception, the majority have good spells and bad runs, Palace just had a particularly awful run at the start, but nothing they've done since considering they've had 8 penalties, dived a lot and have Benteke, Zaha, Townsend, Cabaye, Milvojevic, Sakho, Loftus-Cheek etc. and have spent at least £120m in the past 2 seasons, is particularly remarkable.
You can say what you like, Palace giving every other team a 7 game head start, throwing away some easy or very attainable home points like Swansea, Huddersfield & Southampton. Then after 20 odd games being out of the relegation zone is down to some good management. You obviously don't like Hodgson, I couldn't give a toss about him personally. I can just appreciate he's done a fine job and acknowledge they were dead ceris for the drop when he took over, they're now unlikely to drop.
Guardiola has been the stand out. The rest have done as expected or worse. Dyche has done ok, PUEL has done a fine job and Hodgson has performed much better than expected. If you're honest with yourself, I beg you were pretty sure Palace were down.
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