Too many flaky players, only kev and fern stood up to be counted last 20 and sterling only started once the game was overCan’t fault the first half, first twenty minutes we were superb, got a goal and had them on the ropes, they weathered the storm and for the last twenty we lost momentum a bit but was still unlucky with a few chances and decisions.
Second half was a repeat of the united second half and the anfield game, a complete lack of intensity from us which then allowed them the time and space to hit us and get the crucial goals. We Rarely threatened the goal and seemed to just pass for the sake of it. Very reminiscent of the slump period of last season.
When you look at the bigger picture we just got beat 5-1 by what is widely accepted to be a vastly inferior side man for man, that’s unacceptable.
Pep had to take blame for that. You don’t keep on doing the same thing over and over when it’s been proven to not work he has to be adaptable enough to find ways around it.
Klopp’s clearly got his number and whilst you can say they’re a one off in terms of being perfectly suited to counter us you can guarantee others will try and replicate it in the future, and even if none successfully do, you can’t allow another team to have you completely sussed out to that extent. you can’t rely on not having to play them as there’s a high probability we will in at least one cup competition.
This week as a whole has been an absolute disaster. It could not have been any worse and has really soiled what could and should be a memorable season. Sadly, rightly or wrongly in years to come this season will be remembered for this week and not the 9 months of football before it.
Would have been soft but Sterling was pulled down by Robertsonwhat was the pen in this game(cant remember one)
They do bloody lie though one of them was offside for a start mate... what are you talking about... doesn't get more of a lie than that!You can moan about bent refs all day long, but it has to be said Liverpool were better than us over both legs, they took their chances, we didn't.
Five goals don't lie....poor defending.
Which I don’t understand because we’ve been taking our foot off the gas in almost all games and rotating the team all season for this shit. So what was all that for?Bad time for repeatedly poor 45 mins.
First half, Anfield. Last two second halves at Etihad.
Looks like the lads, or at least some of them, are knackered.
Bad time for the worst run of results in years.
Time to regroup and get back to basics.
Mate it happens to teams every week, and missing sitters changes games see Saturday's game, truth is tonight we had a lot of possession we got balls in good areas but then it all fell down, the final ball was crap, our corners were crap yet again, but hey ho, it will always be the refs fault, I agree ref had a poor game, but also we had a poor gameSo you're honestly trying to make out an offside goal against the run of play doesn't change a game? An onside goal ruled out doesn't let the opposition off the hook? A penalty not given and a possible red card means nothing?...
We really should've been playing that much better for these stupid decisions to not mean anything. The fact we're debating so much about bad calls means that we just weren't good enough to keep our fate in our hands.
This^The dicks on bt don' seem to understand the enormity of the disallowed goal, 2-0 Is a huge difference but all wobble gob could say was you'v got to take with the rough with the smooth, well when the fuck are we gonna get some smooth!!
Would have been soft but Sterling was pulled down by Robertson
Which I don’t understand because we’ve been taking our foot off the gas in almost all games and rotating the team all season for this shit. So what was all that for?
It's the need to win the ball back so quickly that makes it easy for a front 3 like Liverpool's to get out and running. The system fits Otamendi, but he doesn't seem to fit it when we don't have as much possession as usual. He's still way to eager to go to ground and leave the space behind him for an opposing attacker to fill in before the other defenders or Ederson can react.One panorama/general dynamic is the following, i don't think it is even opinion, stats i dare say would back this up...
Our whole game revolves around our attack being our defence right? So when that attack fizzles out and stops working this leaves us wide open, our goal margin being our actual defence. Defending as Mourinho has his teams drilled is beyond us and it is no anomaly that they have Liverpools number. We can't fully switch to defence, the aim is get the ball back to attack again. Having genuine defensive discipline is not in our armoury yet. This i feel has cost us badly at critical moments this season.
Earlier in the season our possession carried serious goal threat against anyone, even the best. It has deserted us recently. So when we are so total in our game, any flaws kill the whole process. Think of Utd being modular and heavily secured on raid 1/5 with us a ramdisk running a very delicate script with low error tolerance in a country with a dodgy power supply. We are brutal when we work but any glitches and it is catastrophic to our game.
Yes spot on from our point of view, but do the opposition fans have any similar statistics to throw back at us?It really isn't. In the big games they are decided by small margins, like 2 good goals disallowed and a penalty not given. Maybe even a goal for the opposition that should have been ruled out.
If you think FOUR decisions going against don't count I give up.
Let’s not go on about that one, without VAR the linesman has a though job of seeing that, his ear and a few hairs looked just about offside from the still camera shotThey do bloody lie though one of them was offside for a start mate... what are you talking about... doesn't get more of a lie than that!
The scoreline also lies as we should have had a penalty and two goals ourselves. Poorly thought out argument pretending the refs decisions weren't a factor.
Would have been soft but Sterling was pulled down by Robertson
I've seen him take plenty on the outside and put in crossesHe can't because he can't take people on outside. Or at least he doesn't have the confidence to. He looks incredible coming inside. Next year....it'll be different.
Well the guy behind the goalline isn't an official. He's won something on a Mcdonalds monopoly that lets him pretend he's an official for a night.
I said it on another thread - the correct process for the disallowed Sane goal should be.
Linesman - Offside
Referee to Official behind the goal - Who did the ball come off?
Official - Liverpool
Referee - That's not offside
Goal
What appeared to happen was
Linesman - Offside
Referee to official behind the goal - Are you having a good time?
Official - Yeah, this is awesome
Referee - freekick.
Bollocks, utter bollocks.
Punch ups in the Tunnel Club seats. - 'Pool fans were in there. I suppose they had every right to be there - pay your money , take your choice.Never mind that I had dippers sat next to me and all around me wtf