Referees/Officials 2017/18 performances

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Every football fan watches through their tinted specs, and everyone thinks refs are against them, but the decisions we've had since Pep arrived are really leaving a bad taste in the mouth and is more than just watching through tinted specs. It is happening too much to be coincidence, I thought these things were supposed to "even themselves out"?!?

Last season we had David Luiz on Aguero, Walker pushing Sterling in the back, good goal ruled out in the FA Cup semi. These are just off top of my head, there are plenty more.

This season started with nonsensical red cards being dished out. After that we had to endure at least one career threatening foul a game going unpunished. Then the Wigan game, and topped off by the last week where I can't remember so many bad decisions all going against one team.

I can't believe football is fixed or that there is some secret plan from UEFA, PL or Pgmol to stop us because that would surely become public at some point, (although that is exactly what UEFA are trying with FFP) but we are definitely not "liked" by the authorities and powers that be, so we never get those close calls. As mentioned in the examples above some of them aren't even close.

So what is it we have done wrong to upset them? Are we not allowed to be ambitious, play good football? Are we supposed to just allow Europe's elite to win because these teams established themselves in the 80's and 90's? (not sure what makes those decades so special!!) Or are there just too many people, in positions of relative power, that have affiliations with clubs or even still sit on the board of clubs that do not like us?
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
That ref was a cheat simple as. He never even asked at the end of the first half how many additional minutes to the fourth officicial. Pep asked him how many realised there was some and ran on to confront the ref

He deliberately allowed liverpool slow it down at every chance . The goalie should have been booked after 20 minutes.

I agree what others said half the time he was not even watching the game and just guessed in Liverpool’s favour.
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Not too worried about added time. I would just like our good goals too stand and penalties to be given. Sterling fouled at anfield by Robertson. Ashley Young hand ball v Utd and push on sterling last night. Ho, and goal at anfield and last night. Just want VAR
 
mosssideblue said:
If it is transparent, the officials have nowhere to hide. I think Rugby have it spot on
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Rugby league has it's million pound game and can afford it. Why can't football in a game worth 100 s of millions.

In the stand last night anyone with bt sport . On smart phone worth 100 quid could show ref in seconds sane incident......there is now no excuse or arguement VAR now please. Corrupt .....bar stewards
 
casualdeyna said:
Every football fan watches through their tinted specs, and everyone thinks refs are against them, but the decisions we've had since Pep arrived are really leaving a bad taste in the mouth and is more than just watching through tinted specs. It is happening too much to be coincidence, I thought these things were supposed to "even themselves out"?!?

Last season we had David Luiz on Aguero, Walker pushing Sterling in the back, good goal ruled out in the FA Cup semi. These are just off top of my head, there are plenty more.

This season started with nonsensical red cards being dished out. After that we had to endure at least one career threatening foul a game going unpunished. Then the Wigan game, and topped off by the last week where I can't remember so many bad decisions all going against one team.

I can't believe football is fixed or that there is some secret plan from UEFA, PL or Pgmol to stop us because that would surely become public at some point, (although that is exactly what UEFA are trying with FFP) but we are definitely not "liked" by the authorities and powers that be, so we never get those close calls. As mentioned in the examples above some of them aren't even close.

So what is it we have done wrong to upset them? Are we not allowed to be ambitious, play good football? Are we supposed to just allow Europe's elite to win because these teams established themselves in the 80's and 90's? (not sure what makes those decades so special!!) Or are there just too many people, in positions of relative power, that have affiliations with clubs or even still sit on the board of clubs that do not like us?
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Can anyone list what major pens or goals not given too us over this season.....it must be over a dozen now. Stretching all way back to Walker sending off v Everton for backing in . And sterling sent off v Bournemouth for celebrating exactly like Utd did on Saturday apart from no cards issued !
 
Bluearmy said:
I can possibly see your point, however take the Milner offside goal tonight, on big screens it would be nigh on impossible to not change that decision. If you didn't, you'd be sacked on the spot as the uproar would be seismic. VAR will never be perfect, but it will put right the vast amount of incidents it gets involved in. At least it deserves a fair chance, before we right it off. Compared to the current state of play, its going to be 90% better at least. Just don't understand having seen what we've seen this season, how any Blue wouldn't want to give it a chance...
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The Extra official behind the goal should have noticed we were in second tier behind the goal and spotted it without needing a replay he was yards away and must have seen it but very rarely do they make a decision
 
I couldn't believe last week when the officials were German - 'good pals of Klop?' I thought and jokingly suggested we had Catalonian refs this week.
Was staggered to discover Spanish officials were given.... with their eyes on Pep's yellow ribbon.....
I appreciate you could argue against having a Danish or Italian etc ref as there is bound to be a Danish or Italian etc player on the pitch.... but the same as the manager is different I feel.....
 
Bookmark this thread for Saturday evening. Absolutely convinced that the Ref against Haringey Hotspuds will play a blinder for them and, as usual, never be held accountable.
 
purplenose said:
The sooner VAR is brought in the better. Its not perfect as anyone who watched Macclesfield last Saturday on BT sport. Two players collide, Ebsfleet player goes down free kick harshly given against Macc player. Fourth official pipes up, ref sends off Macc player....Red overturned on appeal but that sending off cost Macc 2 points. WTF the fourth official thought he saw is anyones guess, so VAR is no guarantee of eradicating stupidity incompetence or down right cheating by officials from the game. Just make it more transparent and easy to see the extent of how bent it is.
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Yeah I saw that shocking decision onns par with Walkers red.
 
moon said:
The Extra official behind the goal should have noticed we were in second tier behind the goal and spotted it without needing a replay he was yards away and must have seen it but very rarely do they make a decision
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Them bastards are stealing a living. They never make any calls and even when they do they’re 99% wrong.
 
VAR isn't the answer, as it is still about opinion. Plus, the on field referee has to ask for the VAR decision. As far as I know, there is no mechanism for the players to ask for a decision to be reffered.

At least one ex ref (can't remember who) said no pen for the challenge on Aguero, so we'd still be left p*ssing in to the wind for most decisions.
 
The main issue is consistency. There simply isn't any. I also think that referees should explain key decisions either at the time like in NFL or after the game. They need to be completely transparent which at present they are not. We might not agree with the decision but you get an explanation because some of the decisions that are made are bizarre.
Every game should be reviewed be an independent panel and mistakes made by the referees highlighted and explained to the public as why is was a mistake etc. I'd even go as far as saying that when a referee has a good game this is also highlighted and again explanations given.
As it stands the current standard of refereeing can't continue.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
VAR isn't the answer, as it is still about opinion. Plus, the on field referee has to ask for the VAR decision. As far as I know, there is no mechanism for the players to ask for a decision to be reffered.

At least one ex ref (can't remember who) said no pen for the challenge on Aguero, so we'd still be left p*ssing in to the wind for most decisions.
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It might not be the solution, but it is part of the solution. Just reviewing 'goals' would have had a huge impact on the CL QF, not just score but timing wise - Salah scored against the run of play in the first leg, and the Sane one was at a crucial point last night.

Agree that we could still end up with poor decisions after review, but that will be infrequent and at least stops the 'official only had a split second to see it' argument. Ultimately, I would like to see something akin to DRS in cricket - each team can nominate a couple of incidents to review per game, in addition to reviews called for by the ref and goal reviews. Much more difficult for incompetent/corrupt officials to determine the outcome of games if teams have a say in what gets looked at.
 
I have never, in my entire life, seen a referee turn his back for the duration of a goalkeepers time wasting and perfectly turning back round as he kicks it. It was the most blatant and obvious point scoring technique from Uefa to City.
 
The added time last night should have been a minimum of one and a half mins in the first half and five in the second. We got a total of two! Thats four and a half mins of play just chopped off! How can anyone at Uefa explain that in anything that approaches a satisfactory manner?
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
The added time last night should have been a minimum of one and a half mins in the first half and five in the second. We got a total of two! Thats four and a half mins of play just chopped off! How can anyone at Uefa explain that in anything that approaches a satisfactory manner?
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They can't but then again they are so arrogant they don't feel they have to.
 
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