Eden Hazard

Bale is top class, I don't want him. Iniesta is top class I don't want him. Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Lewandoski are all top class. And I find the addition of none of them attractive.

Sure Hazard is on my Yes list. But he could be on others 'No' list. There are legitimate reasons to not want a player even if he is world Class. Lots of Barca fans didn't want Zlatan when Barca paid excessively to get him. It didn't work out just as some had predicted.

Some World Class players fit, while others may not. I believe Haza can play Dave's role and also Sane's well. Others may see a petulant coach killer.

So the norion that everyone should want him coz he is supeetalsuper is silly. There sometimes is more to the story than just if a player is WC
His ability to play Dave and Sane's role is what makes him exciting to me. I think Bernardo is going to play RW/RF for the foreseeable future so I feel the right side is set.

But without Dave we lack a tempo-control in the final third, Kevin delivers the perfect final ball but he doesn't dictate tempo like Dave, due to Dave's ridiculous ball control and tight dribbling which Hazard can do.
 
If we can’t speak positive and confidently now, then when can we?

Hazard is Chelsea’s best player by far and one of the world’s best. We have a great squad and management team and finished 19pts ahead of the rest.

So if you don’t think signing Hazard would make us Champs next year then that’s up to you but in my eyes it would be a certainty.
I would expect us to win the league next year, but for one moment I do not expect it to be at the canter we did this last season. And suggesting the rest have no chance is imo arrogant
 
His ability to play Dave and Sane's role is what makes him exciting to me. I think Bernardo is going to play RW/RF for the foreseeable future so I feel the right side is set.

But without Dave we lack a tempo-control in the final third, Kevin delivers the perfect final ball but he doesn't dictate tempo like Dave, due to Dave's ridiculous ball control and tight dribbling which Hazard can do.
Hazard has great dribbling ability and close control but our Dave as Pep points out doesn't need to run to keep hold of the ball his spacial awareness is second to none, that's what give him the ability to control the tempo of games he can slow it right down when we need to and then speed it up again to catch teams out. I think Hazard is more direct than that but I still want him in the team as he would create and score bucket-loads in this team.

For that position I think Bernardo might be the closest to David personally, he doesn't play exactly the same way but he doesn't rely on his pace, his control is excellent and he is young enough to learn that side of the game from David Silva himself. For now he can play further up on the right wing but as he matures I can see him dropping a little deeper and playing more centrally.
 
Hazard would surely demand to be our best paid player. You don’t sign a £100m forward and pay him £150k a week. He will ask for parity with top earner at a minimum. Think Aguero is top earner. This is Hazard’s last big contract, with Sanchez earning £500k+ pw, Hazard will ask for £300k pw minimum imo.

This would create problems. Jesus will ask us why we wont pay him £100k pw yet easily give the new guy triple that.

Yes he doesn’t pick based on salary but he is such a big investment that he will start as many games as Kevin and David. It’s hard to compare as we haven’t bought such an expensive player but he would surely start the majority of games, makes no sense to buy him otherwise.

To demand to be our best paid player, he would have to be that, and I dont think he would be. He can demand what he likes but if we dont like, we will decline, its as simple s that. Pep will not be held to ransom by anyone, rightly so.

If he joins, it will be on Peps/clubs terms, not his.
 
Bale is top class, I don't want him. Iniesta is top class I don't want him. Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Lewandoski are all top class. And I find the addition of none of them attractive.

Sure Hazard is on my Yes list. But he could be on others 'No' list. There are legitimate reasons to not want a player even if he is world Class. Lots of Barca fans didn't want Zlatan when Barca paid excessively to get him. It didn't work out just as some had predicted.

Some World Class players fit, while others may not. I believe Haza can play Dave's role and also Sane's well. Others may see a petulant coach killer.

So the norion that everyone should want him coz he is supeetalsuper is silly. There sometimes is more to the story than just if a player is WC

I disagree completely, but I'm a sucker for big name stars, provided they will genuinely improve our chance of winning everything.

I'd love to see Hazard, Neymar, Bale or Lewandowski here, even better if it was two or three of them! Not that I expect it for one moment, but I do wish we would go fucking huge sometimes, to increase our commercial value and standing as well as to improve the team, reduce the likelihood of 0-0s against bus parkers and defeats at Anfield, and just basically to become accepted as the biggest name in football.

I know it's not important to many, and to be honest I'm very happy with the season, obviously (apart from fucking Wigan, again, and Liverpool, again) but to me, after years of Utd shit everywhere on tv, media, in pubs, etc, it'd be nice if we well and truly overtook them in the general football psyche as the biggest team, if not in Europe then in England at least.
 
I disagree completely, but I'm a sucker for big name stars, provided they will genuinely improve our chance of winning everything.

I'd love to see Hazard, Neymar, Bale or Lewandowski here, even better if it was two or three of them! Not that I expect it for one moment, but I do wish we would go fucking huge sometimes, to increase our commercial value and standing as well as to improve the team, reduce the likelihood of 0-0s against bus parkers and defeats at Anfield, and just basically to become accepted as the biggest name in football.

I know it's not important to many, and to be honest I'm very happy with the season, obviously (apart from fucking Wigan, again, and Liverpool, again) but to me, after years of Utd shit everywhere on tv, media, in pubs, etc, it'd be nice if we well and truly overtook them in the general football psyche as the biggest team, if not in Europe then in England at least.
Im sure we will be seen in that light by the press eventually, but you don't need megastar names to achieve that imo.

edit. We dont need to sign new megastar names to achieve that I should have wrote
 
To demand to be our best paid player, he would have to be that, and I dont think he would be. He can demand what he likes but if we dont like, we will decline, its as simple s that. Pep will not be held to ransom by anyone, rightly so.

If he joins, it will be on Peps/clubs terms, not his.

Exactly why I don’t see this happening.
 
I disagree completely, but I'm a sucker for big name stars, provided they will genuinely improve our chance of winning everything.

I'd love to see Hazard, Neymar, Bale or Lewandowski here, even better if it was two or three of them!
Did you also want Sanchez ? Have you spent the last 6 months laughing at what united are paying him, and the output he has produced for such a premium ?

This could be why some people aren't particularly interested in Hazard coming here.

I can't see how we can keep our currently fantastic club structure, and pay Hazard (or any of those others tbh) what he would want, without busting that structure wide open.
 
Did you also want Sanchez ? Have you spent the last 6 months laughing at what united are paying him, and the output he has produced for such a premium ?

This could be why some people aren't particularly interested in Hazard coming here.

I can't see how we can keep our currently fantastic club structure, and pay Hazard (or any of those others tbh) what he would want, without busting that structure wide open.

We have a winner!!

You see something that 95% of the posters in this thread have missed.

Hazard will demand crazy wages. This is his last big contract, he just saw an inferior Sanchez sign for £500k pw. Hazard will want £300k pw and even that is conservative. Pogba is on £300k pw ffs.

We will not pay that because he is simply not worth it.

Those think Hazard will join for £100m+ and will be ok with £150k-200k pw are kidding themselves.
 
Just read the old Hazard thread from 2012, everyone was so convinced he'd join, even I was getting convinced lol. ITK's all saying it's done, people claiming construction managers in Lausanne said it's done, Hazard said he'll be wearing blue and later said he's coming Manchester, I didn't know we were this close! What could have been :(
Would have saved a fair bit in overall transfer fees overall, might have swing 2013 in our favour and made 2015, 16, 17 much closer.

But then, we also dodged a few big bullets in failed transfers, kaka, pogba, sanchez... .
 
We have a winner!!

You see something that 95% of the posters in this thread have missed.

Hazard will demand crazy wages. This is his last big contract, he just saw an inferior Sanchez sign for £500k pw. Hazard will want £300k pw and even that is conservative. Pogba is on £300k pw ffs.

We will not pay that because he is simply not worth it.

Those think Hazard will join for £100m+ and will be ok with £150k-200k pw are kidding themselves.
He will if he joins. That's the rule here. If he wants a big pocket... There us a small club in the suburbs over there -> who can help him out.

Here, we pay what we pay.
 
He will if he joins. That's the rule here. If he wants a big pocket... There us a small club in the suburbs over there -> who can help him out.

Here, we pay what we pay.
He ain't coming to City if anywhere it's Real Madrid or new £300.000 5 year deal at Chelsea.
 
World Cup is going to be his new contract negotiations IMO.

Belgium shine he gets a whopper at Chelsea or Real.
 
I would expect us to win the league next year, but for one moment I do not expect it to be at the canter we did this last season. And suggesting the rest have no chance is imo arrogant

I said if we signed Hazard?

You are adding another player who will bring double figures of goals and assists to a team that already scored 106 goals last season..... so yeah, the others would have no chance.
 
There is just no way that he comes.
  1. Chelsea won’t sell to us for anything close to a figure that we’d be willing to meet. I expect that they’d demand a fee far greater than Coutinho’s.
  2. We’ll not give him a salary significantly higher than our best paid players, which means he’d likely need to take a pay cut from what Chelsea will offer him to renew his contract.
  3. He’ll demand to play nearly every game, which simply won’t happen. His attitude is questionable and he makes obvious his displeasure when things don’t go his way.
There is no doubt that he is a brilliant player technically, but I expect that he’ll either stay at Chelsea or move to Real Madrid. Honestly, I’d be very surprised if there was any truth in the rumours whatsoever.

We should be working on trying to prise Ousmane Dembele from Barca. Failing that, I expect that we’ll end up with Mahrez, who has performed better than Hazard over the last three season (as others have pointed out).
 

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