Jorginho

[citizen_maine]

It's a huge indication of how much we've grown in recent years, that our targets are now putting open pressure on their clubs to get to come here

 

[bojinov29]

 

[leewill31]

I know scoring goals isn't his job but he's averaging fewer than one goal a season from open play since he joined Napoli and that worries me slightly. As in, it's really really bad.

You answered your own questioning of him.

 

[aguero93:20]

Nope. Seri is an inferior Gundogan.

 

[BringBackSwales]

I know scoring goals isn't his job but he's averaging fewer than one goal a season from open play since he joined Napoli and that worries me slightly. As in, it's really really bad.

Yes, scoring goals is a problem we really need to address this window

 

[richards30]

Looks like this will get done sooner rather than later then!

 

[BringBackSwales]

Great stuff, well done City. The days of being desperate mugs are long gone

 

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

Are we flapping yet?

Dont think so mate.....it would seem there are a couple of good options(Seri? Kovacic?) if this one doesnt happen...maybe thats why we feel we can stand firm with our offer....

 

[cleavers]

IIRC, we signed Manga before Fernando, albeit in the same window, so "since probably Fernando" is probably correct.

Thanks OB1, I just get fed up with some 'fans' wanting to give a negative slant on everything, we may pay largish fees, but we by no means "over pay" these days. In the early days we had to over pay, or nobody would have come, but even then if we look at what we paid for Sergio, David Silva, even Vinny, there's not a single true fan who could say we didn't get value for money out of them.

Our negotiating these days is good, it may take time to complete deal, but when spending around £50m I think that is realistic to expect. People often forget things like international duty, and even a players holiday at this time of year, and these complicate a deal considerably.

The most important thing is we get what we need for the right price, before the start of the next season.

 

[SilverFox2]

Thanks OB1, I just get fed up with some 'fans' wanting to give a negative slant on everything, we may pay largish fees, but we by no means "over pay" these days. In the early days we had to over pay, or nobody would have some, but even then if we look at what we paid for Sergio, David Silva, even Vinny, there's not a single true fan who could say we didn't get value for money out of them.

Our negotiating these days is good, it may take time to complete deal, but when spending around £50m I think that is realistic to expect. People often forget things like international duty, and even a players holiday at this time of year, and these complicate a deal considerably.

The most important thing is we get what we need for the right price, before the start of the next season.

I agree, we seem to be reluctant to go beyond the 50£ mark for our players then develop them into 100£ assets.
However I suppose we must be looking carefully at the wages bill as former bargains achieve greatness with us and re negotiate higher wages.

 

[OB1]

Thanks OB1, I just get fed up with some 'fans' wanting to give a negative slant on everything, we may pay largish fees, but we by no means "over pay" these days. In the early days we had to over pay, or nobody would have come, but even then if we look at what we paid for Sergio, David Silva, even Vinny, there's not a single true fan who could say we didn't get value for money out of them.

Our negotiating these days is good, it may take time to complete deal, but when spending around £50m I think that is realistic to expect. People often forget things like international duty, and even a players holiday at this time of year, and these complicate a deal considerably.

The most important thing is we get what we need for the right price, before the start of the next season.

I'm with you all the way on this.

Plenty of our early "expensive" transfers proved to be worth the money, one way or another. It was inevitable that City would have to pay over the odds and make a fair few mistakes on its journey to transform itself from the position it was in when Mansour took over. That journey continues but the progress has been huge.

Deals involving tens of millions of pounds can take time to complete; especially when genuine time pressure is some way from being a factor.

I hope City can get this deal done but other options exist.

 

[GeorgeHeslop'sTackle.]

Great stuff, well done City. The days of being desperate mugs are long gone

As I see it, all Serie A’s top clubs consider themselves part of of the old guard “European elite” and therefore, far to grand to ever complete genuine deals with “scuff bag newbies” like us.

After all the p*ssing about they gave us, back in the day, on the Kaka, Ibra & De Rossi “deals” (where we were, in effect, nothing more than a stalking horse in 3 seperate transfer auctions), I wouldn’t bother entering into any negotiations with any top Seri A Italian club for the foreseeable future.

It’s a complete waste of time.

 

[Utter bobbins]

As I see it, all Serie A’s top clubs consider themselves part of of the old guard “European elite” and therefore, far to grand to ever complete genuine deals with “scuff bag newbies” like us.

After all the p*ssing about they gave us, back in the day, on the Kaka, Ibra & De Rossi “deals” I wouldn’t bother entering into any transfer negotiations with any top Seri A Italian club for the foreseeable future.

It’s a complete waste of time.

Signed next week then

 

[cleavers]

As I see it, all Serie A’s top clubs consider themselves part of of the old guard “European elite” and therefore, far to grand to ever complete genuine deals with “scuff bag newbies” like us.

After all the p*ssing about they gave us, back in the day, on the Kaka, Ibra & De Rossi “deals” I wouldn’t bother entering into any transfer negotiations with any top Seri A Italian club for the foreseeable future.

It’s a complete waste of time.

How is it a waste of time, if that is the player we want, you deal with whoever needs dealing with, thankfully we don't have a shithouse working on our deals, if we had had, we'd never have signed Sterling, de Bruyne, and others.

 

[GeorgeHeslop'sTackle.]

How is it a waste of time, if that is the player we want, you deal with whoever needs dealing with, thankfully we don't have a shithouse working on our deals, if we had had, we'd never have signed Sterling, de Bruyne, and others.

I’m not suggesting that we don’t do any deals with any European club at all in the near future.

It’s just that (going on our post 2008 experiences) Italian clubs, in particular, seem to have been the most difficult for us to negotiate with in the recent past.

Our negotiator may not, indeed, be a shithouse, but how do you suggest we proceed if the person we’re dealing with on behalf of the Italian club, most definitely is?

 

[blueparrot]

Our negotiator may not, indeed, be a shithouse, but how do you suggest we proceed if the person we’re dealing with on behalf of the Italian club, most definitely is?

Is he? maybe he isn't trying to get the very best deal he can for Napoli, it is his job after all.

 

[cleavers]

Is he? maybe he isn't trying to get the very best deal he can for Napoli, it is his job after all.

Precisely, both are doing their best for their respective clubs, just as you would expect them to.

 

[foggy1974]

Why is it when we go for someone it’s we waiting for them to get a replacement which seems to not happen to any other club or if we can’t get a replacement we ain’t selling oh so they rather miss out on 50m than sell because they can’t find a replacement?! It ain’t out problem either he is for sale or he isn’t. All this bullshit is fcuking annoying!! Funny Fred been sold and no oh we can’t sell him till we get a replacement they just fcuking sell him!!!!

Might have something to do with us not just flopping the cash on the table. If we said will give you €80 million upfront, Napoli chairman would snap our hands off. Could be a delaying action or part of our negotiations.

 

[GeorgeHeslop'sTackle.]

Is he? maybe he isn't trying to get the very best deal he can for Napoli, it is his job after all.

True, but the same question still applies, if neither party is prepared to shift its stance, what do you do?

 

[MillionDollarDream]

Napoli expected to announce their first signing on Monday.

Now ADL wants to sell Jorginho and Hamsik and he’s tightening the time to finally get a new GK DM and CM.